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Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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> "I just don't like anything which creates a lords and peasants sort of thing," This is particularly ironic coming from Elon Musk, net worth $245Bn in a country where “44.2 million people lived in households that had difficulty getting enough food to feed everyone in 2022”

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Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

#44

Striking should be legal, but firing employees for striking should also be legal.

Why stop there? Should to back to the good old days of Pinkertons and military having a small scale war with strikers. And corporations knowingly letting workers work in conditions that will kill them to earns a few dollars more.

Only someone ignorant of history can spout nonsense like this.

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the part where a basic social safety net comes in.

A social safety net helps you if you lose your job, but it does nothing for you when you're on the job. In Sweden we have a very good social safety net, but just that isn't enough.

This is why benefits shouldn't be means-tested.

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

#46

> Postal workers even decided not to deliver mail to the electric automaker, including license plates – an action that Musk called "insane". The local court has since put a stop to that action. This is no longer true. A higher court overturned that decision and the license plates are again blocked from reaching Tesla.

That's wild! As a (pseudo-) government agency, it seems like the postal service shouldn't be legally allowed to pick and choose whose mail to deliver and whose to withhold.

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Striking workers aren’t paid in the first place. Allowing collective bargainers to be fired creates an unbalanced system where employers always have more leverage than workers. Think about it this way: how do I fire the corporations that I’m forced to patronize? Can you survive modern life without buying a single product from Unilever/Nestle/P&G/J&J? How do you make a video call to your family without Google/Apple/Mi…

> Striking workers aren’t paid in the first place. Mostly correct. But unions save the union dues and pay it back to striking workers as compensation for the lost income from work. For example union members at Tesla get 100% wage compensated: > Members at Tesla receive conflict compensation from day one when the conflict breaks out. The compensation is 100 percent of the income you would have received if you had work…

Thanks to good planning by the union, the workers are being compensated - but the point remains that the striking workers aren't costing the employer any money, which was one commenter's claim for why it's unfair to Tesla.

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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Considering Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have some of the highest wealth per adult considering their size and labor practices, I think they're doing just fine.

Don't wanna play by Swedish rules? Don't go to Sweden.

Re: Swedish Tesla strike goes international as Norwegian and Danish unions join in

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post #46

> Postal workers even decided not to deliver mail to the electric automaker, including license plates – an action that Musk called "insane". The local court has since put a stop to that action. This is no longer true. A higher court overturned that decision and the license plates are again blocked from reaching Tesla.

That's wild! As a (pseudo-) government agency, it seems like the postal service shouldn't be legally allowed to pick and choose whose mail to deliver and whose to withhold.

Is it the employees or the agency that decided that?
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