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Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by glanzwulf »

Semaphor wrote: post #36

Recently wanted to rewatch Continuum. Amazon Prime in Germany has S2-4 as stream, sells S1-4. But everything only in German, and no subs. Apple sells something? Maybe only S1? I don’t understand how I can see it without an iTunes account or maybe iTunes installed? Good job having a worse UX than either Google or Amazon, though, that takes work. Google has only S1, and again only in German. Sure is convenient to be ab…

Same boat here, also Germany. Wanted to watch the Bourdain show "No Reservations" and it's practically impossible.

There are only 3 ways:

1. Import the DVDs from the US, but pay a high cost for the DVDs, the high cost of shipping, the taxes and customs and eventually, once it arrives, watch it.

2. Be a criminal, get a VPN, fake address and data, prepaid US credit card and subscribe to discovery in the US and watch it.

3. Be a criminal and pirate it easily.

Is piracy really the problem?

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by hoosieree »

scrlk wrote: post #4

To quote Gabe Newell: > "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a…

Paid streamed content should do something like mobile virtual network operators, so people can pay for what they use.

Currently only piracy provides this service, and paid content services are choosing legislation over competition.

The established players really should be working on this, because it's only a matter of time before some pirate service turns legit and eats all their lunches.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

midasuni wrote: post #110
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I'd stop paying for Netflix well before I'd stop paying for Spotify because Spotify has much closer to the "everything"of that particular form of entertainment than Netflix does, and new albums and songs are relatively instantly available on the service. For whatever reason, the ability to arrange music licensing to allow for an aggregator of everything is much easier than for movie and TV show licensing.

The problem I have with Spotify is the money I pay doesn’t go to the artists I potentially to. If I pay £15 a month and listen to 15 different artists 50 times each I would expect each artist to get £1 minus costs, so say 50p. But they don’t, they instead get a fraction of that.

I do get that, and don't like it.

I have a deal with myself, that I'm a few months behind on actually, to spend at least $10 a month (the equivalent of my old Google music sub) on Bandcamp - and on primarily Australian music, to support local in my minimal way.

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Post by WithinReason »

nehal3m wrote: post #32
dstick wrote: post #2

> For years, consumers griped about cable bundling and having to pay high prices for hundreds of channels they never watched in order to get the handful they enjoyed. Despite the growing availability of legal streaming options since then, piracy statistics show that infringement has remained a real concern. That's the thing isn't it? It was convenient when streaming first came on the scene. Everything in one place. "…

I don't mind paying for a service at all; I'll happily switch one service for another every month or few months. The main sticking point the diaspora causes for me is I can't find what I want. Maybe some people subscribe to a service and happily browse and watch what's available. I'm not a huge show or movie buff so I tend to go by personal recommendations so for me the process is flipped. I start with a movie or a s…

It's easy to find where to stream a show from:

https://www.justwatch.com

https://reelgood.com/

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by [deleted] »

jampekka wrote: post #3

> Internet piracy isn’t ethically justifiable, but it is convenient. Intellectual property isn't ethically justifiable, but it is convenient for some. > Illegal downloading of copyrighted materials takes up 24% of the global bandwidth. In many (most?) jurisdictions downloading material is not illegal. Have these been subtracted from this figure, or is this yet another lie? Given the history of this propaganda, I'm qu…

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Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by irisgrunn »

leetrout wrote: post #6

> Digital video piracy is costing the US economy between $29.2 and $71 billion each year. ... > This number surely affects the US economy in terms of lost movie industry revenue as well as lost jobs and tax revenue. So no facts to back this up that I saw. Some amount of piracy is uncountable because the user never would have bought the media anyway.

Don't forget that this study exists: https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_s...

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by ghaff »

DeathArrow wrote: post #118
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the question.

When talking about new, great content, parent mentioned only sci-fi and fantasy content: Marvel TV Shows, Wheel of Time, Foundation, House of the Dragon, the Mandalorian, Rings of Power, etc So, it seemed that if you are into that stuff, you have some amazing content. But what if you are not?

I tend towards SF myself but Deadwood, Russian Doll, Ted Lasso, The Morning Show, Succession... There's a lot of quality TV out there on streaming across a range of genres.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by still-old »

jampekka wrote: post #3

> Internet piracy isn’t ethically justifiable, but it is convenient. Intellectual property isn't ethically justifiable, but it is convenient for some. > Illegal downloading of copyrighted materials takes up 24% of the global bandwidth. In many (most?) jurisdictions downloading material is not illegal. Have these been subtracted from this figure, or is this yet another lie? Given the history of this propaganda, I'm qu…

How ethical is it to not report how much you(dataprot) got paid for this schilling?

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

zxt_tzx wrote: post #71
dstick wrote: post #2

> For years, consumers griped about cable bundling and having to pay high prices for hundreds of channels they never watched in order to get the handful they enjoyed. Despite the growing availability of legal streaming options since then, piracy statistics show that infringement has remained a real concern. That's the thing isn't it? It was convenient when streaming first came on the scene. Everything in one place. "…

I think it's interesting to contrast this with music. Music is dominated by a few big labels, which makes it very easy for each provider (Spotify, Apple Music etc.) to provide a complete catalogue and thus convenience. (Though this does mean Spotify's unit economics are much worse, partially explaining the foray into podcasts and recent layoffs etc.) Furthermore, whereas we hardly rewatch the same movies, we constant…

I feel like I'm a fairly way out there outlier, but I still find modern music that beats nostalgia.

But I also find music that was "before my time" that's just fucking magical as well.

You have to put effort in though, because passively you're just fed slops. The good stuff, the real nourishment, has to be dug out of the ground.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Post by HideousKojima »

flkenosad wrote: post #90
figmert wrote: post #12

> Internet piracy isn’t ethically justifiable Is it not? What about when a company like Sony pulls millions of purchased digital content without a refund? What about when discovery pulls a whole lot of content so they can write it off? What about when companies push for digital only releases without a way to physically own the content? No, piracy isn't just ethical, it is the only way one can ensure they actually own…

Not to mention archiving. I trust anon pirates to keep content unaltered and available more than any single centralized organization.

Like how the only way to watch the Michael Jackson episode of the Simpsons is to either buy secondhand copies of the DVDs, or pirate.
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