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Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

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Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#81
I have a friend that pirates everything. He's constantly telling me about movies and shows that just came out; usually seeing them before anyone else. For me, even if it elicits scorn, I like to pay for my media. As a youngster, I pirated. Nowadays, after knowing many artists and people involved in the creative end of things, I can't really justify that posture, anymore.

A big problem, is that all the streamers are breaking the landscape into hundreds of different parts. It's pure profit-seeking, and I can't actually argue against the business sense.

But it makes being a consumer, a nightmare. Book DRM is similar. I like to use the same reader for all my books, but was forced to crack many of them, just so I could read all my books on the same app. I also brought pirated books, because they didn't sell the ones I wanted, in the US. I would have been thrilled to pay, but they didn't want my money.

Bundles tend to become corrupted. Cable bundles are pretty much worthless, to me. They all force you to have sports, and sports are what makes the bundles expensive. I couldn't care any less, about sports. I guess I'm in a minority.

I would love to see the ability to "build your own bundle," including temporary subscriptions to services that carry just one show I want to see (I remember subscribing to YouTube Premium, just for one show. I found it to be an awful app, and quickly unsubbed, once I'd watched the show). Maybe even the ability to select individual shows, from different publishers, and watch them all on the same app. AppleTV is getting closer to that, but still has a loooong way to go.

The tech is definitely already here. The issue is with the distributors.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I had a way to quantify it, but it also seems like _investment_ has skyrocketed. 20 years ago HBO might make a high quality, high budget show. Now we have shows like the Marvel TV Shows, Wheel of Time, Foundation, House of the Dragon, the Mandalorian, Rings of Power, etc.. that all have MASSIVE budgets. A lot of that was funded by free money, but I think the quality and expectation of TV shows has gone up quit…

But I still need at least 3 services to watch them. When pirating is just as easy and at worst costs you 1 service: a VPN.

>But I still need at least 3 services to watch them.

Which costs you maybe a third of what a cable TV subscription cost you.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#83
post #4

To quote Gabe Newell: > "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a…

Well, I'd stop paying for Netflix well before I'd stop paying for Spotify because Spotify has much closer to the "everything"of that particular form of entertainment than Netflix does, and new albums and songs are relatively instantly available on the service. For whatever reason, the ability to arrange music licensing to allow for an aggregator of everything is much easier than for movie and TV show licensing.

Yep, super easy, just pay the content creators in beans and peanuts.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I had a way to quantify it, but it also seems like _investment_ has skyrocketed. 20 years ago HBO might make a high quality, high budget show. Now we have shows like the Marvel TV Shows, Wheel of Time, Foundation, House of the Dragon, the Mandalorian, Rings of Power, etc.. that all have MASSIVE budgets. A lot of that was funded by free money, but I think the quality and expectation of TV shows has gone up quit…

What if you aren't into sci-fi and fantasy?

I don't understand the question.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#85
post #12

> Internet piracy isn’t ethically justifiable Is it not? What about when a company like Sony pulls millions of purchased digital content without a refund? What about when discovery pulls a whole lot of content so they can write it off? What about when companies push for digital only releases without a way to physically own the content? No, piracy isn't just ethical, it is the only way one can ensure they actually own…

To spell out what I think you're saying, the way to be ethical and have ownership is to pay for the content and then download a version of it so that you both supported the creator and have a copy of what you paid for.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#86
post #6

> Digital video piracy is costing the US economy between $29.2 and $71 billion each year. ... > This number surely affects the US economy in terms of lost movie industry revenue as well as lost jobs and tax revenue. So no facts to back this up that I saw. Some amount of piracy is uncountable because the user never would have bought the media anyway.

This has to be the classic * = crazy number. Instead of * = millions of dollars. Like how the RIAA sued Limewire for 72 trillion dollars. https://www.businessinsider.com/riaa-claims-limewire-owes-tr...

I laughed so much reading the article

> Compare that to the wealth of the entire planet at $60 trillion.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#87
post #12

> Internet piracy isn’t ethically justifiable Is it not? What about when a company like Sony pulls millions of purchased digital content without a refund? What about when discovery pulls a whole lot of content so they can write it off? What about when companies push for digital only releases without a way to physically own the content? No, piracy isn't just ethical, it is the only way one can ensure they actually own…

cough Hollywood accounting cough

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#88
>Internet piracy isn’t ethically justifiable

it's quite easy once you realize buying isn't owning

>Digital video piracy is costing the US economy between $29.2 and $71 billion each year.

these numbers are so laughably vague and only exist to justify the existence of the content mafia.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#89
post #2

> For years, consumers griped about cable bundling and having to pay high prices for hundreds of channels they never watched in order to get the handful they enjoyed. Despite the growing availability of legal streaming options since then, piracy statistics show that infringement has remained a real concern. That's the thing isn't it? It was convenient when streaming first came on the scene. Everything in one place. "…

>That's the thing isn't it? It was convenient when streaming first came on the scene. Everything in one place.

I have to subscribe to a service where maybe only a tv show interests me and the rest is junk. Subscribe to another service for another tv show, and so on.

That is not convenient. Give me a website where I can pick from all online available media I can only watch and pay what I want.

Re: Piracy Is Back: Piracy Statistics for 2023

#90
post #12

> Internet piracy isn’t ethically justifiable Is it not? What about when a company like Sony pulls millions of purchased digital content without a refund? What about when discovery pulls a whole lot of content so they can write it off? What about when companies push for digital only releases without a way to physically own the content? No, piracy isn't just ethical, it is the only way one can ensure they actually own…

Not to mention archiving. I trust anon pirates to keep content unaltered and available more than any single centralized organization.
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