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I believe that Tesla does not need ships to transport Tesla Model Ys from Giga Berlin to Sweden. They can use railroad. Or trucks.
As long as Danish railroad workers and/or truckers don't join the blockade of course.
Would that work or are Tesla’s too hard to service by third parties?
Outside of maintenance, what else does Tesla need people for in Sweden? Sales all done online?
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> Legally that seems a bit crazy that shipping company workers can select what gets shipped based on their political beliefs. Brother/Sister, a strike can in principle be done for any reason.
Sure but a strike implies not working at all
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That doesn't sound like a strike at all. They presumably are still working and getting paid their wages Legally that seems a bit crazy that shipping company workers can select what gets shipped based on their political beliefs. Next the power utility company workers are going to refuse to give Tesla electricity
You're talking like they're acting out based on some unrelated or irrelevant thing - as if they're taking a stand against Elon Musk's stance on trans people or his rather unique ideas about what "free speech" is. The unions are acting against Tesla out of their own self-interest - Tesla do not want to collectively bargain with a union. This is not something these unions are OK with and allowing it to continue unoppos…
It sounds like what anti union people like to portray them as. A tax on employees and nepotism.
I think that whole thing is just a huge misunderstanding of elmu thinking that whole world works like USA. And even in USA, union members in average earn 18% more than others. On the other side, strike and unionizing is one of basic workers rights here and you just don't fight unions in EU. As you will be losing more money than if you get to an agreement with them. When elmu started his crusade against unions, I was…
Oh, yes you do - it happens all the time.
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As long as Danish railroad workers and/or truckers don't join the blockade of course.
As someone else pointed out, it sounds like German and Polish truckers are ambivalent.
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It's a chicken and egg problem. EE never had its technocrats like Taiwan or South Korea but a bunch of populist thieves with lack of vision. EE is full of entitled elderly pensioners that control the narrative and are only interested in returning to the "good old times of communism" in one way or another. Prosperity requires stepping out of your comfort zone and implement ideas that bring competitive advantage over y…
>EE never had its technocrats like Taiwan or South Korea Because also the political and education system in communism couldn't create any visionary technocrats focused on innovation and exports. It simply encouraged cronyism, lying, backstabbing, empire building, fiefdoms and thievery from the same zero-sum pie aka the local national economy. Well educated and innovative workers from Taiwan or South Korea weren't sen…
I think that whole thing is just a huge misunderstanding of elmu thinking that whole world works like USA. And even in USA, union members in average earn 18% more than others. On the other side, strike and unionizing is one of basic workers rights here and you just don't fight unions in EU. As you will be losing more money than if you get to an agreement with them. When elmu started his crusade against unions, I was…
The current Swedish government just signed an agreement to be able to station US troops under US jurisdiction at Swedish military bases. You think they are going to side with the unions?
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Well, then you completely misunderstanding things. It's not about joining, not at all. Actually what they ask for changes things for all employees of an industry (e.g. cars, or generally metal), not just for unionized workers. So let me explain on this, as european union culture is VERY different from US union culture. In Europe a lot of countries have a system of "Tarifvertrag" ("tarrif contract", but really "collec…
To me this sounds weird. I'm from Eastern Europe, no strong unions there by the way so it must be a West/North Europe kind of thing. I understand unions fighting for people who joined a union. But if I purposefully don't join a union cause I don't believe unions are good for the industry (I don't, but this is a hypothetical) why does the union have the power to create a "collective agreement" that affects me? Who gav…
I think that whole thing is just a huge misunderstanding of elmu thinking that whole world works like USA. And even in USA, union members in average earn 18% more than others. On the other side, strike and unionizing is one of basic workers rights here and you just don't fight unions in EU. As you will be losing more money than if you get to an agreement with them. When elmu started his crusade against unions, I was…
Unfortunately either side can't blink. IF Metall can't back down because then other companies could get ideas to leave. And Elmu doesn't want to back down because then other countries could get ideas about unionising which would affect their bottom line.
If Tesla mechanics received stock in 2013, some of them probably got rich. It’s plausible Tesla mechanics actually think it’s awesome to receive tons of overtime, stock, and perf bonuses. I haven’t seen their perspective covered in the media, which I find suspicious.