Earlier quoted context omitted.
Elon simply doesn't believe in unions and wants to operate like a dictatorship (his public personal history has a substantial paper trail on this matter, both with personal and business relationships). It works until enough people say no. Certainly, just as Elon disagrees with the idea of unions, there are likely enough folks who disagree with the idea of Elon. If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor ha…
> If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor had to organize against, I mean, the bar is already pretty low where he's at but perhaps we have yet to hit bedrock. Probably with a bit to be said about dying a hero or living long enough to become the villain through the appropriate lens. Highly recommend watching the full interview that Andrew Ross Sorkin did with Elon Musk (it is the one where he told advert…
Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
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Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor had to organize against, I mean, the bar is already pretty low where he's at but perhaps we have yet to hit bedrock. Probably with a bit to be said about dying a hero or living long enough to become the villain through the appropriate lens. Highly recommend watching the full interview that Andrew Ross Sorkin did with Elon Musk (it is the one where he told advert…
MANY things he does are explicitly to be liked. That’s why he posts all the time, goes on interviews, shows up on SNL. Buys a social media company then burns company hours on figuring out why he isn’t the most viewed person on it. He really, really, wants to be internet liked, that’s he claims he doesn’t care about.
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Elon simply doesn't believe in unions and wants to operate like a dictatorship (his public personal history has a substantial paper trail on this matter, both with personal and business relationships). It works until enough people say no. Certainly, just as Elon disagrees with the idea of unions, there are likely enough folks who disagree with the idea of Elon. If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor ha…
> If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor had to organize against, I mean, the bar is already pretty low where he's at but perhaps we have yet to hit bedrock. Probably with a bit to be said about dying a hero or living long enough to become the villain through the appropriate lens. Highly recommend watching the full interview that Andrew Ross Sorkin did with Elon Musk (it is the one where he told advert…
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor had to organize against, I mean, the bar is already pretty low where he's at but perhaps we have yet to hit bedrock. Probably with a bit to be said about dying a hero or living long enough to become the villain through the appropriate lens. Highly recommend watching the full interview that Andrew Ross Sorkin did with Elon Musk (it is the one where he told advert…
His behavior on X seems to contradict that though. What does any of that have to do with building the best products?
Then why piss off advertisers?
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#45This and the Danish solidarity actions are mainly to prevent Tesla from shipping cars meant for the Swedish market to Danish or Norwegian ports and then trucking them to Sweden. The Swedish transport union stopped unloading Tesla cars at Swedish ports November 7, but Tesla Y was still one of the most sold car models in Sweden in November (second place between Volvo XC40 and XC60).
Also, I wonder if it would completely kill their margin to just have a horde of workers drive the cars individually to Sweden.
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#46From what I understand the strikers aren't asking for more money or anything specific other than Tesla to honor collective bargaining with unions Tesla cannot have different deals with different shops, has to respect what it agrees with unions.
It's as much about the Swedish unions not wanting a new precedent set as it is about Tesla not wanting a new precedent set.
Like respecting local laws and customs?
Same people who deride local laws in Europe get really worked up when someone tries it in US.
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#47This and the Danish solidarity actions are mainly to prevent Tesla from shipping cars meant for the Swedish market to Danish or Norwegian ports and then trucking them to Sweden. The Swedish transport union stopped unloading Tesla cars at Swedish ports November 7, but Tesla Y was still one of the most sold car models in Sweden in November (second place between Volvo XC40 and XC60).
I believe that Tesla does not need ships to transport Tesla Model Ys from Giga Berlin to Sweden. They can use railroad. Or trucks.
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If he wants to be remembered as the dude global labor had to organize against, I mean, the bar is already pretty low where he's at but perhaps we have yet to hit bedrock. Probably with a bit to be said about dying a hero or living long enough to become the villain through the appropriate lens. Highly recommend watching the full interview that Andrew Ross Sorkin did with Elon Musk (it is the one where he told advert…
...best cars, best rockets, best social network for spreading propaganda and false narratives.
You might have that view of YouTube in general but this is an interview during the New York Times Dealbook summit.
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
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Nope, it called solidarity strike. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_action
Which are forbidden in Germany. Thanks to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Carl_Nipperdey who already stripped worker of their rights in the Nazi regime.
"There were no strikes against Agenda 2010 as the German constitution prohibits politically motivated strikes, but some demonstrations at least were organized and supported by the unions."
Re: Norway Joins Denmark in Swedish Tesla Strike/Blockade
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope, it called solidarity strike. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_action
Which are forbidden in Germany. Thanks to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Carl_Nipperdey who already stripped worker of their rights in the Nazi regime.