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they raised $16mm. I assure you they've talked with a lawyer or two.
If they actually just took a binary from OSX and stuck it into their app it probably wasn't the best lawyer
Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android
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#762I think this might be launching at an opportune time. The EU is already trying to force them to open up the App Store and iMessage has a target on its back. A cease and desist about this won’t look great in the inevitable antitrust hearings…
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If that becomes a problem and they get enough funding, I'm sure they can spend a few days / weeks reverse engineering the functions they need. At this point it just needs some effort, not some crazy research capabilities.
Given that these are cryptography-related functions, I feel like symbolic execution could yield the actual algorithm they use.
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#765I think this might be launching at an opportune time. The EU is already trying to force them to open up the App Store and iMessage has a target on its back. A cease and desist about this won’t look great in the inevitable antitrust hearings…
Does iMessage have a target on its back? It doesn't have a dominant position here in messaging, if it has a position at all.
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#766Great job! Just from taking a quick look at this, what you have here is much bigger than iMessage itself. This could literally allow things like Universal Clipboard to work on Linux and Windows - by using the method presented here to access the iCloud Keychain and generating Continuity keys and placing them there - then the iPhone will broadcast its clipboard data encrypted with those keys via BLE. If I understand al…
I had been wondering where Beeper's route to profitability was, but if they can get Continuity and AirDrop stuff working with Windows that will be an instant no-brainer subscription for a lot of people (including me), so I guess it works out.
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#767Beeper is a really cool idea by some cool people (people behind the Pebble smartwatch) but I've resisted using it for fear of bans. I don't want my Slack/Discord/Instagram/AppleId/etc to get banned for using something not allowed under the terms of service. How are people who use Beeper dealing with this? Are you just using dummy/test accounts that you don't care about or are you just rolling the dice. I would like t…
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Does iMessage have a target on its back? It doesn't have a dominant position here in messaging, if it has a position at all.
over 50% of US market (and a few other countries), for starters. Not EU's jurisdiction, but it is a major messaging service.
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Well messaging for one thing... Some others: - Find my device features including Bluetooth ping networking (airtags, Tile, Android's upcoming network) - Airdrop/Nearby Share - Bluetooth LE proximity pairing (at least I doubt this works when pairing cross ecosystem) - Carplay/Android Auto - Airplay/Google Cast
- Carplay/Android Auto Are there any headunits that only support one or the other? The cheap Chinese unit I got last year supports wireless for both. It would be nice to have an open protocol though, so third parties could develop alternative UIs.
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Even Signal pitches a fit if you use a third-party app with their servers. It's a common (and unfortunate) practice.
what does this mean? plenty of 3rd party signal clients exist (flare being a well-known one); signal explicitly factored out a libsignal presumably to _encourage_ this. i’ve run multiple 3rd-party signal clients, even alongside the official apps, and never seen any problems or warnings. [flare]: https://gitlab.com/schmiddi-on-mobile/flare
Moxie (Signal's founder) has thrown fits in the past over the existence of third-party clients using their servers: https://github.com/libresignal/libresignal/issues/37#issueco...