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Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by lamontcg »

colpabar wrote: post #90
gorhill wrote: post #52

A reliable way I found to confirm whether there is new anti-content blocker code released by Youtube is to visit uBlockOrigin's reddit sub[1]: If there are well over 1,000 "here now" (near top right), this confirms the anti-content blocker code has been updated. If well below 1,000 "here now", all is fine. At time of writing, it's fine. * * * [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/

This is clever and I'm definitely using it. Website idea: a downdetector-like site that uses reddit's "here now" numbers to give insight into whether something is going on with a certain thing. edit: Has anyone else not really been affected by the new youtube adblock policy at all? I think I have seen the warning a single time, and I use youtube all the time . I only use ublock origin and privacy badger... on chrome.…

> Has anyone else not really been affected by the new youtube adblock policy at all?

not really. firefox + privacy badger + ubo. once a week or so i do get blocked but then i clear cookies, restart firefox and relogin and then it works.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by Brian_K_White »

RockRobotRock wrote: post #165
CrzyLngPwd wrote: post #57

Youtube seems to me to be a bullshit test platform. They will work around ad blockers and continue to pile on repetitive and banal adverts that have nothing to do with the user until they reach breaking point (where people flee and seek alternatives), and then they will relax their system to show marginally less bullshit. The confusing part of this battle is the app users, who do not agree with the avalanche of adver…

If what you're saying is that people who don't watch ads and don't pay for Premium will leave the platform, that seems like a desirable outcome to Google.

Unlikely. They need all the uploaders, and the uploaders need all the viewers, and they need both of those to be in the unholy massive numbers. Well, they want. No one actually needs to be a trillion dollar business instead of a million dollar business.

But the point is it's unlikely they want all non-premium users to go elsewhere, not even merely the non-premium ad-blocking users.

In fact, they don't even really want premium users if it means not still showing them ads somehow and still collecting data on them. They offer premium more or less begrudgingly because they sort of have to in order to excuse the user-hostile behavior everywhere else.

Like donating to Firefox. They donate to firefox only so that they can make chrome as terrible as they want, and point to the existense of firefox as the answer to any complaints. They don't actually want anyone to use firefox. But it's better to let a few escape than to have the bulk decide to make laws they don't want.

Ptemium is the same. They don't really want any premium users. Or rather, sure they'd happily collect a subscription from everyone AND still show ads and collect data.

Which is pretty much what they do actually. Premium doesn't actually remove all the bad elements of youtube. It just goes from pulling 8 of your fingernails out to only pulling 5 of your fingernails out.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by Brian_K_White »

kmlx wrote: post #30

what i’m reading from these comments: we will do anything, including leaving youtube, but for sure we will not be either watching ads or paying for content.

Spoken like someone from the universe where paid services do not still show ads and engage in countless other user-hostile behavior.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by kmlx »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #173
kmlx wrote: post #30

what i’m reading from these comments: we will do anything, including leaving youtube, but for sure we will not be either watching ads or paying for content.

Spoken like someone from the universe where paid services do not still show ads and engage in countless other user-hostile behavior.

does anyone know of any services that do this?

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by [deleted] »

Foivos wrote: post #64
ehaliewicz2 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no theft when I use youtube because I was never going to click on ads in the first place. The value of me watching ads is absolutely zero. (From my point of view in fact, it's negative).

What value do you bring to YouTube, especially since YouTube does not make any money from you?

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by ehaliewicz2 »

throw0101b wrote: post #129
ehaliewicz2 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no theft when I use youtube because I was never going to click on ads in the first place. The value of me watching ads is absolutely zero. (From my point of view in fact, it's negative).

> There is no theft when I use youtube because I was never going to click on ads in the first place. Advertising works on multiple levels, with direct sales not necessarily being the only acceptable result: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchase_funnel

However, me not buying something is quite obviously not equivalent to theft.

Besides, I only watch youtube ad-free. If this becomes impossible I will simply stop watching youtube, so, I don't think this strategy will have much effect on me either, at least within the context of youtube.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by ehaliewicz2 »

crazygringo wrote: post #107
godshatter wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are giving things away for free with ads attached to them. People who don't like advertisements are removing them without looking at them. They are retaliating by trying to force them to look at the ads or to otherwise mess with them getting the free items in a timely manner in the first place. Well within their rights, I guess, but it still seems like they are throwing a tantrum to me.

> Well within their rights, I guess, but it still seems like they are throwing a tantrum to me. I still don't see how it has anything to do with a tantrum. A tantrum is someone yelling and screaming because they aren't getting what they want. This is Google getting exactly what it wants, and I don't see any yelling and screaming. It's just quietly asserting its rights to block adblockers.

Does google really have the right to block my control over what is shown or not shown on my computer? They may have the ability to do so, but that is not necessarily equivalent to a right.

For example, what if I had a robot that detected when an ad was being played on youtube, and automatically turned off my monitor and headphones momentarily, turning them back on once the ad was over. Would that violate google's "rights"?

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by paulryanrogers »

autoexec wrote: post #137
tredre3 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And, likewise, Youtube is free to send the bytes to only the people they want. If they don't want to serve video data to people who use adblocks, it's their right. You are then free to try to work around it, the same way Youtube is trying to work around your adblocker.

I'd agree with that, although that doesn't make both activities equivalent either. Google is being increasingly obnoxious and user-hostile in an effort to get people to pay Google money to stop harassing them and wasting their time by delaying and interrupting the free content they requested with repeated attempts at manipulation, while the people who block ads are just trying to avoid Google's unwanted (and at times…

Google's bandwidth and storage of those bytes isn't free

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Post by paulryanrogers »

kmlx wrote: post #174
Brian_K_White wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spoken like someone from the universe where paid services do not still show ads and engage in countless other user-hostile behavior.

does anyone know of any services that do this?

Paid services that still show ads? Cable, Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video, etc.
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