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Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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I could be wrong, but I interpreted gp as criticizing those who make the solutions available/easy, not those who use the solutions. The former are "trying to block" which takes time -- the latter simply block which is closer to immediate. And then there's us discussing the whole thing, which shows that sometimes the pleasure is in the journey, not the destination.

Well the creator of uBlock Origin probably rakes in a few hundred thousand in donations and other revenue annually, so it's probably well worth their time too. But yeah, arguing about it all online has always been the most fun part.

Ubo doesn't accept donations

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Most of the people who upload content to YouTube are doing it because of the ads. So many people have managed to become full-time YouTubers because of the revenue sharing from ads. And these people upload the content that we all enjoy watching. It's a virtuous cycle that I don't think can be replicated with PeerTube.

> And these people upload the content that we all enjoy watching. Maybe you should speak only for yourself. It is possible that most people uploading to youtube do it because of the adds, but there are plenty of people who have other reasons. Most people I watch regularly do not even have enough views to get any add revenue. There are plenty of us who prefer contents that was not created with adds in mind.

Not speaking just for myself, there are millions of us who watch and subscribe to YouTube channels to support the creators. I would argue that you're in the niche if you're only watching content from creators that do not want to grow their channel or earn any revenue from it.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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A reliable way I found to confirm whether there is new anti-content blocker code released by Youtube is to visit uBlockOrigin's reddit sub[1]: If there are well over 1,000 "here now" (near top right), this confirms the anti-content blocker code has been updated. If well below 1,000 "here now", all is fine. At time of writing, it's fine. * * * [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/

Is there some place with a technical writeup of what YT are doing to frustrate circumvention so effectively?

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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There is no theft when I use youtube because I was never going to click on ads in the first place. The value of me watching ads is absolutely zero. (From my point of view in fact, it's negative).

What value do you bring to YouTube, especially since YouTube does not make any money from you?

If nothing else, platform engagement clearly is a driver for the business model. Comments, shares on other media.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Youtube seems to me to be a bullshit test platform. They will work around ad blockers and continue to pile on repetitive and banal adverts that have nothing to do with the user until they reach breaking point (where people flee and seek alternatives), and then they will relax their system to show marginally less bullshit. The confusing part of this battle is the app users, who do not agree with the avalanche of adver…

If what you're saying is that people who don't watch ads and don't pay for Premium will leave the platform, that seems like a desirable outcome to Google.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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I think the current YT Premium model is more fair, creators get paid more the more you watch them. I'm glad it works like this instead of pandering to donations. Anywhere I've looked, I've seen the donations model been a complete failure. Usually I am the only person or one of less than 10 that donates to an OSS project with thousands and thousands of users. People just don't donate to things that are important and u…

> I think the current YT Premium model is more fair I don't think it is entirely fair to invent problems for people and then demand payment from them to stop getting in their way. That said, I don't object to Google providing people with the option of giving their money to Google either, I just don't think they need the strong arm tactics. > Likewise with YouTube, nobody will donate to well-made instructional videos…

After running the platform at a loss over over a decade until their competitors evaporated. And then refusing to sell the solution to the invented problems without bundling it with an unrelated service in another market they want a foothold in...you know, just anticompetitive behavior.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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what i’m reading from these comments: we will do anything, including leaving youtube, but for sure we will not be either watching ads or paying for content.

Watching ads is like going to the bathroom without washing your hands after. It's simply bad hygiene, and future generations will hopefully look back with disgust at how putrid our current society is for allowing our minds to be polluted for thousandths of a penny.

I don't even get thousandths of a penny for viewing ads - someone else does.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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they're not saying it because microeconomic pressures result in a system where YouTube is unenjoyable or expensive. As humans, we can organize this system to be an enjoyable, free tool, and Google won't be terribly affected by the minor loss in profits but instead, the pressures of capitalism drive innovation to optimize for an undesirable outcome. this isn't negative commentary on capitalism itself, but a roundabout…

>As humans, we... "We" as in those other guys have to create all the videos without compensation and I watch them without giving any compensation. What a nice "we" we have, I wonder how long the other guys will stick around?

There's a lot of double think around here that resolves around the call to do your bit and support Google's model. I should know better but I still find it breathtaking. Capitalism's benefits are brought to fruition through competition, and hard nosed decisions on all sides. I was raised by a capitalist believer. That is what he instilled in me. The willingness of the consumer to exercise choice is paramount. As such, I rail against the fatalism that we must pay, and not find ways to not pay.

Good grief, no. That 9$ is urgently required in order to purchase healthy food at spiralling prices, and to pay for the requirements for healthy activities.

Google? The last people i am concerned about. Content makers, that's an interesting story. SV and others rips them off, and crushes the business models that supported their livelyhoods. But now I have to be concerned about the youtube content makers?

Think about it. People do things without recompense all the time. It's called joy, or something. It is a fact. If that's not possible, they could investigate setting up patreons.

What YT have somehow done is repackage their business model in vivo in your head. It's not Yt's business model at all. It is a moral obligation to creators.

The obvious call concern is that Google are emotionally exploiting you. As the services are addictive by nature, that is par for the course.

Consumers with a moral concern for the world rather than just passing emotional whims are supposed to allow themselves to recognise how hard nosed the investors and executives are.

This is all business. All transactions. Forget the selling of attention and data. Your presence and interest in a thing is advertising, and affirms it as something of value.

I'm respectful of the desire to support people who create things of value for us, but it's absolutely vital to realise that one of life's great joys is doing so for free.

Frankly sometimes when I feel there's also an air of desperation around this discussion. If the transition from free to paid service can't be normalised, a lot of people on here would seem to stand to lose or face uncertainty.

I wish I could impart upon people there is a great need to frequently revisit and exploring our moral, ethical social contracts - and to realise how flimsy our justifications are, and how limited we are in being able to concieve of the realities involve. There's something childlike about it. It's hard to know when just to leave that alone, as entire point is that life might not offer any certainty whatsoever as to the 'goodness' inherent in the act or any protection against it unwittingly - in the final analysis - proving to be a terrible thing for all involved, if only we understood (but we can't).

Basically... uhhh.... we could stand to be hard nosed consumers. Not cynical, but perhaps not avoiding the "realist" view that there are huge and unavoidable ambiguities and contradictions in everything we are engaging with, and pretending otherwise is not about being a wise adult, it's about silly and childish ideas such as good and evil.

I think it's important to remember life was fine for everyone long before Google, and would be just fine if they vanished in the next two decades.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could be wrong, but I interpreted gp as criticizing those who make the solutions available/easy, not those who use the solutions. The former are "trying to block" which takes time -- the latter simply block which is closer to immediate. And then there's us discussing the whole thing, which shows that sometimes the pleasure is in the journey, not the destination.

Well the creator of uBlock Origin probably rakes in a few hundred thousand in donations and other revenue annually, so it's probably well worth their time too. But yeah, arguing about it all online has always been the most fun part.

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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what i’m reading from these comments: we will do anything, including leaving youtube, but for sure we will not be either watching ads or paying for content.

They came first for the non-paid viewers, and I didn't speak up because I pay for Premium...

(Point being people paying for premium are also mad at these tactics)

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