We'll see what happens after Manifest V3 becomes mandatory in Chrome. That might trigger an influx of users?
Firefox on the brink?
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Re: Firefox on the brink?
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What's "only" about it? Smartphones gave everybody convenient internet access and thus increased the customer/user base enormously for everybody who publishes online. It's perfectly natural that the frontrunner in smartphones will have a huge chunk of the browser market.
If iOS allowed other browsers on the device (and I mean allow other browsers to run their own engines and not have to use Safari's engine under the hood - be first class citizens, just like Safari) then I doubt Safari would have such high numbers.
Maybe, maybe not. But there's nothing "only" about creating a massively popular way to browse the web. That Safari chunk will still be an iOS chunk. Device matters much more than browser for making web interfaces.
Re: Firefox on the brink?
#243Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…
While I have no idea about any of the aspects of Mitchell Baker's salary, I don't see this questioning of corporate CEO's. A generous reading might be that this is the salary required to avoid losing the CEO to some random VC selling useless widgets.
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Re: Firefox on the brink?
#244Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…
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I'll just add.
As we are in the holidays and reflecting on things we are grateful for - Thank God for Linus!
Re: Firefox on the brink?
#245Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…
I feel like it's not that high for a CEO salary at a mature compnay. Staff-level engineers are routinely paid upwards of 1M these days (yay inflation). 6M for a CEO doesn't sound unreasonable. If these numbers sound high ... $1M today was $500K in 1996.
Even if it were "not that high" for a CEO, what would justify a 7x increase while things have been looking downhill for years?
If anything, the board should have gotten rid of her at this point and hired someone else, even if at this higher salary it would make more sense than sticking with someone who obviously hasn't been leading the company to growth or sustainability (since they are trending downards).
Re: Firefox on the brink?
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
I also have crashes on sway, but there’s a rough workaround now which prevents the issue totally. I believe there’s a design issue with Firefox and GTK handling input events; some Wayland compositors have workarounds but others do not. https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/7645 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1743144 Firefox is my preferred browser and I hope we can keep its engine alive in this era of C…
I have been using Sway and Firefox for the last three years at least, and have never experienced crashes. Sway and Firefox as packaged by Debian Stable. I really wish people on HN threads complaining about Firefox bugs clearly stated 1) their environment, and 2) who packaged the Firefox, because those are what could make all the difference.
The bug depends on a few factors that aren't really packaging-specific.
A) the default socket buffer size B) the polling rate of your mouse C) whether there's anything on your system or in your firefox profile that can cause enough lag that the buffer overflows D) whether your compositor has any workarounds for that protocol limitation
Well, I suppose a packager could have disabled wayland in firefox...
Re: Firefox on the brink?
#247Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…
> Mozilla Corporation CEO Mitchell Baker's salary? What a ridiculous question. Obvious the chief captain on the Titanic is not responsible for the Iceberg jumping at the boat.
Maybe this is sarcasm, but the chief captain of the Titanic (Edward Smith) was not responsible for the iceberg jumping at the boat but was responsible for steering the ship at high speed through water known to have icebergs. He even said in an interview that he could not "imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that".
I can imagine a similar analogy with M. Baker.
Re: Firefox on the brink?
#248I want Firefox to not be on the brink. I have had no problems with it on Linux over the last few years since I switched from Chrome. I do not wish to touch Chrome with a ten-foot pole.
Firefox regularly crashes for me on wayland. It slows down my whole system when it tries to load a page in first boot (but librewolf doesn’t for some reason) the HID and webgl/webgpu support is bad… It’s just not a very good browser compared to chrome forks or webkit based ones.
I can’t speak to the second point, but I’d look for OOM events in dmesg for the crashes.
Re: Firefox on the brink?
#249Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…
I hope mozilla the corporation dies faster so we could then focus on the browser. As someone said, the board is a joke.
Re: Firefox on the brink?
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I can imagine that the CEO, or maybe a few other top officers, may say: "This is me who is bringing in all the search deals, which means all the money. Come on and try to oust me." Mozilla is an open-source project. When an open-source project somehow loses its way, it's often forked by a new team of contributors who have a better idea. This happened several times: Open Office / Libre Office, MySQL / MariaDB, X86 / X…
The EU could have a privacy-friendly browser if it funded Mozilla or a Mozilla fork.
I, for one, won't trust a government to ensure my privacy.
The EU does better than the US for consumer-related privacy issues. But I don't think the same can be said when the government wants to slap a label of "national security" onto something. That puts us into a whole different world of "anything goes".