Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or, in this case, perhaps some of the top-end products saw you.
"In Soviet Russia, ..." OK, I'll see myself out :)
In Soviet Russia top end products see themselves out
Judge: Amazon "cannot claim shock" that bathroom spycams were used as advertised
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#142> Tech legal expert Eric Goldman wrote that a victory for the plaintiff could be considered "a dangerous ruling for the spy cam industry and for Amazon,"
TIL there is a whole "spy cam industry".
Well, good that they are being ruled against. There is no legit use case for this product.
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#143Good. Amazon has been happy to rake in commissions for years from dodgy products sold by third party sellers (uncertified electrical equipment, scam flash drives/SSDs, spycams, etc) and then turn around and blame the marketplace sellers when the inevitable happens. Unlike eBay, Amazon goes to great lengths to sow confusion about what it sells versus its marketplace participants. The average user thinks that when they…
> they're buying something procured and vetted by Amazon, when it's really a marketplace seller using Amazon's logistics services.
And Amazon often seems to label random products "Amazon recommended" including those from completely made-up Chinese brands.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
I like having an online store with better selection than whatever I can get at the local Big Box store. People forget how bad it was before Amazon, packages took weeks to deliver with even less accountability than Amazon (i.e no reviews). I remember the days of paying $40 for a 3 foot HDMI cable. Bought an unsafe or defective product at a “Trusted” retailer? Enjoy your $3.50 check from the class action lawsuit 3 year…
> with even less accountability than Amazon (i.e no reviews) Given that Amazon reviews are utterly worthless, I'm not sure that's an example of Amazon having more accountability.
Yeah so many are paid for reviews. You can tell in Europe because they're obliged to mention it. Almost all reviews on sketchy products are from people recieving the product for free or getting paid.
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#145The article links to an amazon search results page for "bathroom spy camera" Here is the first result: "1080P Bathroom spy Shower Nozzle Hidden Spy Security Cameras Mini Camera DVR 32GB,Mini Nanny Cam Smart Home, Indoor Outdoor Baby Camera" https://www.amazon.com/Bathroom-Shower-Security-Cameras-Outd... Kind of incredible that this still continues. They at least give some kind of cover for the use case of a "baby cam…
> "This is a 1080P mini Shower shelf spy camera that looks like an ordinary can of Shower shelf. The camera is so well hidden that no one will know that the Shower shelf actually contains a mini bathroom spy camera. Because it is so well hidden, you can put it anywhere, even in the bathroom, and no one will be suspicious. "
I don't know who buys their "Shower shelves" in cans but this whole blurb makes no sense. The picture shows a shower head, not a shelf or a can.
The malicious intent is clear at the end of the quoted paragraph though. Not to mention that I wouldn't know where else to use a shower head other than "even in the bathroom".
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#146Its just denying a “motion to dismiss” pretty low hanging but it is federal district court, a bit more serious than a West Virginia state court fun stakes
this is a trial you want dismissed. After that you try your darndest to settle. After all, do you really want a jury of 6 men (ie dads of little girls), a 6 women (ie identifying with the victim) adjudicating this? When you're one of the most despised companies in America? Settle Amazon. Settle quickly.
A case like this shouldn't be allowed to settle. It should go in the criminal court and set a clear precedent that this is not ok.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you use that same protocol for all cameras, SSDs, HDDs, and microsd cards that could “create and store child sex abuse material"? Someone should be in prison, but it isn't Sony, hitachi's or AT&T's fault when their products are used in this way.
There are products that have legitimate uses but can be abused for something else; and there are products designed for abuse that also have legitimate uses. Small cameras have a lot of useful uses. However a camera disguised as a towel hook is clearly designed for use in a bathroom where it is unlikely it will be used for legitimate purposes. If you make a camera as a towel hook you need to have good know your custom…
> If you make a camera as a towel hook you need to have good know your customer policies to ensure only legitimate porn producers buy it.
Legit porn producers won't buy this for 2 reasons:
- The quality will be unusable for real porn
- The models know they're being filmed so there's no need to hide the camera. You can just put a real cam on the wall to simulate a hidden cam.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are products that have legitimate uses but can be abused for something else; and there are products designed for abuse that also have legitimate uses. Small cameras have a lot of useful uses. However a camera disguised as a towel hook is clearly designed for use in a bathroom where it is unlikely it will be used for legitimate purposes. If you make a camera as a towel hook you need to have good know your custom…
> If you make a camera as a towel hook you need to have good know your customer policies to ensure only legitimate porn producers buy it. Legit porn producers won't buy this for 2 reasons: - The quality will be unusable for real porn - The models know they're being filmed so there's no need to hide the camera. You can just put a real cam on the wall to simulate a hidden cam.
Quality is a good point. However there is a point to hidden camera like this and that is when combined with other views to make it look like their model doesn't know she is being filmed.
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#149A spy camera that looks like a towel hook seems like a product that should be illegal to sell. For what legitimate purpose would somebody want a towel hook camera? Don't most people put towel hooks in bathrooms? It seems perfectly reasonable to hold Amazon legally responsible for selling this product even if it was a 3rd party seller (not clear from the article). A product whose intended use is to secretly record vid…
It looks the same as a jacket hook too.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe some dude who likes to watch themselves shit?
It's pretty common for people taking a sport seriously to record themselves to improve their technique. So maybe competitive shitting?
I can't even fathom the rules for that - is it mass, texture, ease of departure? The mind boggles.