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Ok, I need to double check, but I'm pretty sure using ketchup anywhere near pierogi is illegal.
My mother in law is 2nd gen British, her parents came from Poland in the 1930s, so they are nearly 100 years out of Poland. It might be something to do with that.
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I have been in Poland for much of the time since the war started, and while I have read news articles about this supposed new term pierogie ukraińskie , I don’t think I have ever seen it in the real world. The pierogis served at milk bars, or from Żabka to be microwaved, are still overwhelmingly referred to as ruskie . Even the Ukrainian cafe nearby serves them as pierogie ruskie .
In Ukraine they're called Varenyky (originating from a verb "boil", like "boiled things").
There's an interesting shift in language associated with the Russian invasion of Ukraine - a type of pierogi which used to be called ruskie (from the region of Red Rus, where they originate) are now commonly named ukraińskie (Ukrainian) instead. The reason is that the adjective ruskie is typically understood as "Russian" in general parlance.
I have been in Poland for much of the time since the war started, and while I have read news articles about this supposed new term pierogie ukraińskie , I don’t think I have ever seen it in the real world. The pierogis served at milk bars, or from Żabka to be microwaved, are still overwhelmingly referred to as ruskie . Even the Ukrainian cafe nearby serves them as pierogie ruskie .
My polish mother called them "pirojki", which is the french term. She made 2 variations: - mashed potatoes and white cheese - rice and meat rolled in a cabbage leaf One of our neighbors offered one with mashed potatoes and apricot jam (I hated that). Too bad I'm gluten intolerant now.
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Stealing? It's their shared East Slavic heritage.
There's an interesting shift in language associated with the Russian invasion of Ukraine - a type of pierogi which used to be called ruskie (from the region of Red Rus, where they originate) are now commonly named ukraińskie (Ukrainian) instead. The reason is that the adjective ruskie is typically understood as "Russian" in general parlance.
So it's basically a new version of the "Freedom Fries" mania, but with higher popularity?
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Stealing? It's their shared East Slavic heritage.
Indeed. “Rus” is an ethnonym, of famously Scandinavian origin, used across the entire East Slavic area and was never something limited to people in now-Ukraine that people in now-Russia could “steal”. The Uralic- and Turkic-speaking peoples of the Middle Volga, for example, already called the neighboring Slavic-speaking populations “Rus” in the medieval era.
but years later that experience was overshadowed when i tried their traditional zurek soup -- now that was divine
There's an interesting shift in language associated with the Russian invasion of Ukraine - a type of pierogi which used to be called ruskie (from the region of Red Rus, where they originate) are now commonly named ukraińskie (Ukrainian) instead. The reason is that the adjective ruskie is typically understood as "Russian" in general parlance.
+1 from me, as article mention one of the small annoyances I have. My family comes from Red Ruthenia, region where ruskie pierogi comes from. Because of lingual characteristic they are usually linked to Russia (as mentioned in article) and so, with all the turmoil many restaurants decided to rename them: either to pierogi with potatoes and cheese or to galicean - as from Galicia, which is commonly perceived as Krakow…
> My family comes from Red Ruthenia, region where ruskie pierogi comes from Is there any definitive proof behind that? My family too come from former Polish territories in Ukraine. It feels like in the last decade all of Slavs have been rushing into claiming as their own many traditions. I find it sad and unnecessary. In fact I suspect the dish to be popular to move of the former Kievan Rus' region and I know for sur…
Yet they predominantly are served in this region so having them being “ruskie” or “ruthenian” (a huge region) is much more fair than naming it Galician.