Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban

Post by Dylan16807 » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 5:23 AM UTC

s1artibartfast wrote: post #173

LambdaComplex wrote: post #152

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Do you normally solve interpersonal conflicts in your life with physical violence? If the answer is no: why do you think it's appropriate to do so when dealing with children? (If the answer is yes, then consider anger management classes, I guess)

>Do you normally solve interpersonal conflicts in your life with physical violence? There are tons of situations where violence is appropriate for interpersonal conflict, usually when someone won't listen to reason. If I went into your house, ignored what you were saying, and then started smashing things or molesting your children, would you just sit there and protest politely?

Post by spaceribs » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 5:27 AM UTC

s1artibartfast wrote: post #167

spaceribs wrote: post #150

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Are you comparing a human child with dogs, chimps and giraffes? Are you saying it's appropriate to communicate with physical violence in this context? What other human-to-human contexts are there where physical violence or the threat of physical violence is okay? I'm genuinely curious about this worldview, because I personally cannot empathize with this. It's abhorrent to me and my values.

I would argue that basically every human context includes the possibility of physical violence, usually for sufficient transgression the boundaries of others. If you walk out your door start groping people or try to run off someone's child, you will encounter violence pretty fast.

Post by rendang » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 5:32 AM UTC

beaeglebeach wrote: post #65

s1artibartfast wrote: post #51

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>she has trouble controlling her own students because I believe they themselves have realized she's inconsistent and illogical, so anything goes. They do something, she says something they don't respect, they continue, she gives up This really shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Even 2 year old children can understand authority, power dynamics, and contests of will. For that matter, a 6 month old puppy will understand…

Children are often hardest on their own caregivers though, so the more you look like a parent figure the more they rebel. Of course nowadays corporal punishment is 'child abuse' so the child is emboldened knowing they can do whatever they like, including violence, with absolute impunity from physical pain.

Post by Dylan16807 » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 5:37 AM UTC

tiahura wrote: post #138

jmcqk6 wrote: post #97

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corporal punishment is child abuse. It does not mean children can do whatever they like. You might find it difficult to find alternatives, but better alternatives than violence exists. Save your children the costs of therapy as adults, and focus on real emotional health.

Is there a mammal that doesn’t utilize corporal punishment to set boundaries? Does every dog / chimp / giraffe that got nipped by mom for being a brat need therapy?

Post by Dylan16807 » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 6:06 AM UTC

tivert wrote: post #96

talldatethrow wrote: post #83

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Lol you're talking about having respect for someone I assume, but then you assume there's 'intelligence' in finding a random link in the world? Let's say she was a damn genius. Do you expect her to have Google alerts setup for non official spellings of her school districts name? Is a genius supposed to be checking my browser history on my phone? How smart would she have to be to find what I wrote?

>>>>> People will think poorly that I’m talking down a romantic partner >>>> Well, yes. Relationships don’t do well when one of the partners has this much contempt for the other. There’s a difference between knowing in your own mind she’s not the best at her job, and calling her a “ditzy” “illogical” “girl” in public. >>> I don't call her that in public. >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38524596 is a publicly…