Minnesota middle school students 'seem happy' after cellphone ban

Post by kurisufag » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 4:16 AM UTC

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> They were also VERY suspicious any time you had your graphing calculator out outside math class, and some of the ruder study hall attendants would clear your calculators memory of games. That would have been a huge bummer becuase I wasn't playing games on mine, I was writing programs. It was actually the start of my professional programming career technically. I sold a copy of the program I wrote via link cable to…

The very first thing you did is write a program that prints a pixel-perfect "memory reset successfully" message to the screen as if you had just cleared it yourself :)

Post by tiahura » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 4:36 AM UTC

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Is there a mammal that doesn’t utilize corporal punishment to set boundaries? Does every dog / chimp / giraffe that got nipped by mom for being a brat need therapy?

Are you comparing a human child with dogs, chimps and giraffes? Are you saying it's appropriate to communicate with physical violence in this context? What other human-to-human contexts are there where physical violence or the threat of physical violence is okay? I'm genuinely curious about this worldview, because I personally cannot empathize with this. It's abhorrent to me and my values.

Post by tnecniv » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 4:40 AM UTC

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This was always a curiosity to me, too. Same in my schools, no gameboys, graphing calc use monitored and restricted to specific classes, whether cheating or distraction things weren't allowed - smart phones are all those things and more. It didn't feel oppressive, either, it felt appropriate - like setting a tone, even when we were defying the rules lol

It was just annoying to me. They take away trading cards and game boys and at the same time this was when they were removing monkey bars and tether ball courts due to lawsuits. What do you want students to do during recess? There's only 1 full basketball court and 2 single courts. We only had access to half the grass field for whatever reason so that limited soccer (and yeah, no full contact so Murica Football was so…

Post by gnicholas » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 4:52 AM UTC

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Yes, people had different ways of dealing with things in the past, but things are different now. I recall seeing a comment on HN last week that said the commenter ignored a call assuming it was spam, and was only alerted to the fact that his kid was in the hospital when someone from the school showed up at his door. People assume they can reach you by phone these days, especially if you're the parent of young-ish chi…

> People assume they can reach you by phone these days, especially if you're the parent of young-ish children. Sure. But in this story the school fell back to the "old-fashioned" way and sent someone along to the guy's house. It seems clear that the guy got along just fine without being reachable via telephone.

Post by spaceribs » Tue, Dec 05, 2023, 5:21 AM UTC

tiahura wrote: post #184

spaceribs wrote: post #150

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Are you comparing a human child with dogs, chimps and giraffes? Are you saying it's appropriate to communicate with physical violence in this context? What other human-to-human contexts are there where physical violence or the threat of physical violence is okay? I'm genuinely curious about this worldview, because I personally cannot empathize with this. It's abhorrent to me and my values.

I think your response captures it in a nutshell. Dog’s, chimp’s and giraffe’s primary concern is addressing the problematic behavior. Modern parenting’s primary concern is with congratulating themselves for their enlightened values.