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Re: Leaving F-Droid

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I'm quite unclear on what thos drama is about and what the consequences of it are.

Just from reading the linked pages, looks like they did't have any clear governance structure, tried to established one and failed due to sabotage from a person holding de-facto powers.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#12

Nothing quite shows how deserving one is of filling a responsible role than dragging personal conflicts into the public and - without providing proper context - blaming other people for it. My congratulations to Hans; as it turns out, he has done the F-Droid project yet another excellent service.

Do you have some other insight? tfa seems to paint hans as a passive aggressive dude. in the gitlab issue, another person shows up and gave a similar statement about hans. and in the latest reply by hans, it seems that he takes the L.

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#13

Nothing quite shows how deserving one is of filling a responsible role than dragging personal conflicts into the public and - without providing proper context - blaming other people for it. My congratulations to Hans; as it turns out, he has done the F-Droid project yet another excellent service.

I see this more as whistleblowing on this bypass of their own process and governance. If personal conflict is the reason given for bypassing all procedure, what else can they do than mention it? Doesn't seem like "dragging" it in to me.

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#14
post #8

I'm quite unclear on what thos drama is about and what the consequences of it are.

+1. This style of public post that say "I'm leaving because of problems which I am not disclosing" are odd.

Who are you talking about? Hans?

"According to Hans, "many people" have expressed "concerns" about me -- though for some reason not during the period expressly meant for people to voice those, apparently only to him in private, mysteriously never mentioned before now, and that cannot be named for some reason.

Concerns that are simultaneously both too unimportant to address so I can defend myself (and apparently not an issue for me joining ComCo), yet more than enough for Hans to unilaterally block me from getting Maintainer status on gitlab, even though the board -- including Hans -- voted to grant me that, which Hans then blocked for weeks using a myriad of counterfactuals as justification."

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#15

Nothing quite shows how deserving one is of filling a responsible role than dragging personal conflicts into the public and - without providing proper context - blaming other people for it. My congratulations to Hans; as it turns out, he has done the F-Droid project yet another excellent service.

"According to Hans, "many people" have expressed "concerns" about me -- though for some reason not during the period expressly meant for people to voice those, apparently only to him in private, mysteriously never mentioned before now, and that cannot be named for some reason."

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#16

Nothing quite shows how deserving one is of filling a responsible role than dragging personal conflicts into the public and - without providing proper context - blaming other people for it. My congratulations to Hans; as it turns out, he has done the F-Droid project yet another excellent service.

> My congratulations to Hans; as it turns out, he has done the F-Droid project yet another excellent service.

From the outside it looks like Hans is not following rules and procedures. This is never good for an active community.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#17
post #2

Fyi, linked in the post is the statement in the fdroid GitLab org, https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/447 . This provides a bit more context. It also contains a reply from Hans regarding this statement.

Further context is in the resignation statement of another community council member, which someone made private "because I felt like it" (actual quote and sole justification.)

https://web.archive.org/web/20231117190207/https://gitlab.co...

Edit: since multiple trolls are in the thread, this isn't just one person. Multiple people simultaneously resigned from the community council. Edit: the entire community council. Three people - the fourth was the F-droid board's representative.

More about the community council: https://forum.f-droid.org/t/call-for-volunteers-f-droid-comm...

It sounds like F-droid established a governing board this year and one of their first actions was to address complaints from contributors about how Hans was running things. The board established the community council, Hans kept doing whatever he wanted, and the board didn't act, so much of the community council resigned?

Edit: I think the entire community council quit, given the fourth member is their board representative?

Re: Leaving F-Droid

#18

Nothing quite shows how deserving one is of filling a responsible role than dragging personal conflicts into the public and - without providing proper context - blaming other people for it. My congratulations to Hans; as it turns out, he has done the F-Droid project yet another excellent service.

You could have at least seen the joint statement[0] to know that it's not just one person complaining.

[0]: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/admin/-/issues/447

Re: Leaving F-Droid

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post #12

Nothing quite shows how deserving one is of filling a responsible role than dragging personal conflicts into the public and - without providing proper context - blaming other people for it. My congratulations to Hans; as it turns out, he has done the F-Droid project yet another excellent service.

Do you have some other insight? tfa seems to paint hans as a passive aggressive dude. in the gitlab issue, another person shows up and gave a similar statement about hans. and in the latest reply by hans, it seems that he takes the L.

Multiple people simultaneously resigned from the community board at the same time, which makes it very clear it's not this 'one person dragging their personal stuff into public'.

Re: Leaving F-Droid

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post #14
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1. This style of public post that say "I'm leaving because of problems which I am not disclosing" are odd.

Who are you talking about? Hans? "According to Hans, "many people" have expressed "concerns" about me -- though for some reason not during the period expressly meant for people to voice those, apparently only to him in private, mysteriously never mentioned before now, and that cannot be named for some reason. Concerns that are simultaneously both too unimportant to address so I can defend myself (and apparently not a…

The author, who notes:

> Sadly, this is not a single incident -- if it was I would still believe things could be fixed -- but a pattern of behaviour that has continued for years. I've tried to be patient, hoping we could still resolve things, give everyone the benefit of the doubt as I constantly have. But clearly, this is not possible as long as Hans refuses any and all accountability for his actions, and any attempts at mediation to resolve the interpersonal friction and conflicts. > > Hans' actions have repeatedly hurt me (and others)

This post is light on details. If there were many incidents, some details would be available.

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