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Re: Lobsters

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Post by Rochus »

stephenr wrote: post #69
Rochus wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately many examples; usually it starts with a "-1 spam", e.g. for this post: https://lobste.rs/s/ebztmj/now_we_know_which_cs_publication_... And if you then complain that the post doesn't violate house rules, you get some obviously wrong claims from someone of the inner circle why it does; if you then contradict to these claims or present facts, you usually get flagged for trolling, and eventually your commen…

> you get some obviously wrong claims I can't possibly imagine why you ever had a problem Edit: sorry I forgot to add the /s. I really thought it would be obvious this time .

Well, I was (unfortunately) not surprised because it already happened with some posts before. There are some really destructive people there.

Re: Lobsters

#72

Post by buildbot »

andy99 wrote: post #35
mooreds wrote: post #34

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> when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Why my content is not welcome and other people's self-promotional articles are I don't quite understand, but it is obvious they don't need me on the website. I feel the same. I spent a fair bit of time on the site, including posting ~600 articles and commenting. Some of my posts got a fair bit of upvotes. I got a couple of…

Weird because primarily submitting one's own stuff seems to be pretty common there. Random example from a user currently on the front page: https://lobste.rs/~rednafi/stories And that is not the only one on the front page right now that's submitting mostly their own stuff.

That's not a particularly good example, their latest self-promo post has a warning from the mod on it...

Re: Lobsters

#73

Post by dun44 »

solardev wrote: post #39
dun44 wrote: post #31

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>The best I can think of is not to let people see the penalizing behavior I wonder if it would be possible to split HN (or any other HN-like site) into two halves: one would handle the actual storage of posts and comments, and another would handle the scoring, ie the order the comment tree branches appear in. Then we could have multiple of the latter, competing with each other on the scoring alone, with the actual co…

Kinda like how reddit has "hot", "top", and "best"?

More like with Usenet where every user would have their own scorefile, which determined the order they would see posts. Except without having every user to manage it for themselves, instead choosing which "frontend" to use.

Re: Lobsters

#74

Post by bb010g »

Rochus wrote: post #64
stephenr wrote: post #57

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Flagged as what though? Without seeing actual examples of posted articles that were flagged it's honestly impossible to make any judgement. Edit: I should point out that this isn't a hypothetical question either. As the moderation log is open, we can see exactly why a user was banned or post was removed etc.

Unfortunately many examples; usually it starts with a "-1 spam", e.g. for this post: https://lobste.rs/s/ebztmj/now_we_know_which_cs_publication_... And if you then complain that the post doesn't violate house rules, you get some obviously wrong claims from someone of the inner circle why it does; if you then contradict to these claims or present facts, you usually get flagged for trolling, and eventually your commen…

As a Lobsters user, I think you could have avoided those spam flags with a less click-baity title and opening line of the body. “MIT CSG Memo 137 was the first CS publication to use the term "object-oriented"” would have been a better title, since you posted after the result was discovered.

Also, Hillel Wayne already politely explained this to you! https://lobste.rs/s/ebztmj/now_we_know_which_cs_publication_...

Re: Lobsters

#75

Post by mooreds »

andy99 wrote: post #35
mooreds wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Why my content is not welcome and other people's self-promotional articles are I don't quite understand, but it is obvious they don't need me on the website. I feel the same. I spent a fair bit of time on the site, including posting ~600 articles and commenting. Some of my posts got a fair bit of upvotes. I got a couple of…

Weird because primarily submitting one's own stuff seems to be pretty common there. Random example from a user currently on the front page: https://lobste.rs/~rednafi/stories And that is not the only one on the front page right now that's submitting mostly their own stuff.

I stopped posting three years ago, maybe the culture has changed?

Re: Lobsters

#76

Post by eszed »

undersuit wrote: post #60
lormayna wrote: post #54

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This resembles exactly the description of moderation in /r/italy. There are more people banned from there than people subscribing this subreddit.

WTH happened in November 2021 to kill that sub?

Just Googling and guessing:

Maybe, "Italy Announces New Restrictions For the Unvaccinated"?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/24/world/europe/italy-vaccin...

Or, right-wing stuff about immigration?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/25/matteo-salvini...

Those are hot-buttons that have ruined other communities, so whatever the specifics for that sub, my guess is Political Controversy. Anyone on here know anything for sure?

Re: Lobsters

#78

Post by tptacek »

jart wrote: post #41
Hakashiro wrote: post #32

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

[flagged]

The other side of this story:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36735833

Re: Lobsters

#79

Post by usefulcat »

jart wrote: post #41
Hakashiro wrote: post #32

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

[flagged]

> I always felt like the Lobsters crowd is the kinds of people who'll tell you what they really think I genuinely would not have guessed that this would ever be a problem on the internet.
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