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Re: Lobsters

#31

Post by dun44 »

treesciencebot wrote: post #23

Any reason why HN source code is not published? The best I can think of is not to let people see the penalizing behavior, but having an open standard might actually help it improve rather than keeping it as a hidden secret that slowly gets discovered by independent malicious parties.

>The best I can think of is not to let people see the penalizing behavior

I wonder if it would be possible to split HN (or any other HN-like site) into two halves: one would handle the actual storage of posts and comments, and another would handle the scoring, ie the order the comment tree branches appear in. Then we could have multiple of the latter, competing with each other on the scoring alone, with the actual content being common.

Re: Lobsters

#32

Post by Hakashiro »

I had an account here. I still do.

Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN.

If anything, it might be worse.

My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Why my content is not welcome and other people's self-promotional articles are I don't quite understand, but it is obvious they don't need me on the website.

Re: Lobsters

#33

Post by insanitybit »

Xiol32 wrote: post #5

Would be less of a ghost town if they allowed sign ups rather than via invitation only. Appreciate that's kinda the point of the site, but if it's a ghost town then it's clearly petered out.

I post on there most days. It's not really a ghost town, and there's a lot less noise than HN with only a bit less signal.

Re: Lobsters

#34

Post by mooreds »

Hakashiro wrote: post #32

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

> when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Why my content is not welcome and other people's self-promotional articles are I don't quite understand, but it is obvious they don't need me on the website.

I feel the same. I spent a fair bit of time on the site, including posting ~600 articles and commenting. Some of my posts got a fair bit of upvotes. I got a couple of warnings when I posted my own content, even though it was 5-10% of my posts. Super frustrating, so I told the moderator I wasn't going to participate any more. And I haven't. Their site, their rules, but I don't have to spend my time there.

https://lobste.rs/~mooreds is my profile.

Re: Lobsters

#35

Post by andy99 »

mooreds wrote: post #34
Hakashiro wrote: post #32

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

> when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Why my content is not welcome and other people's self-promotional articles are I don't quite understand, but it is obvious they don't need me on the website. I feel the same. I spent a fair bit of time on the site, including posting ~600 articles and commenting. Some of my posts got a fair bit of upvotes. I got a couple of…

Weird because primarily submitting one's own stuff seems to be pretty common there. Random example from a user currently on the front page: https://lobste.rs/~rednafi/stories

And that is not the only one on the front page right now that's submitting mostly their own stuff.

Re: Lobsters

#36

Post by packetlost »

Lobsters has a simple but effective and fairly strongly enforced tag system that makes it far easier to curate your feed than HN. Despite what others have said here, it is not a ghost town at all, it's intentionally lower noise and they'd like to keep it that way.

Re: Lobsters

#37

Post by mariusor »

38 wrote: post #11

Not a fan of having to beg for an invitation. Seems like HN is able to handle moderation with a small crew.

Small crew of very high quality *paid* moderators. I don't know how many other hats Daniel wears in YC, but based on the times he's active here, he's spending _a lot_ of time doing moderation work.

Lobste.rs, as far as I know, works only with volunteers which probably are an incohesive group of random people with random thresholds for how they moderate. It's entirely reasonable for such a community to build redundancies in the methods for lowering unwanted content.

Re: Lobsters

#38

Post by rglullis »

Aside from the argument for/against lobste.rs, is there anything in the codebase that is worthwhile? Any feature/functionality that could be implemented in Lemmy, for example?

Re: Lobsters

#39

Post by solardev »

dun44 wrote: post #31
treesciencebot wrote: post #23

Any reason why HN source code is not published? The best I can think of is not to let people see the penalizing behavior, but having an open standard might actually help it improve rather than keeping it as a hidden secret that slowly gets discovered by independent malicious parties.

>The best I can think of is not to let people see the penalizing behavior I wonder if it would be possible to split HN (or any other HN-like site) into two halves: one would handle the actual storage of posts and comments, and another would handle the scoring, ie the order the comment tree branches appear in. Then we could have multiple of the latter, competing with each other on the scoring alone, with the actual co…

Kinda like how reddit has "hot", "top", and "best"?

Re: Lobsters

#40

Post by stephenr »

Lobste.rs definitely feels like less of an echo chamber: both Reddit and HN have a large "I don't agree with you, downvote" population - on HN this is officially endorsed as "correct" use too.
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