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Re: Lobsters

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post #41

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

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May we get a link to your Lisp GC article?

Re: Lobsters

#52

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

I've been lurking on Lobsters for a while, and have definitely noticed that the self-promotion rule is selectively enforced. Just pivot into exclusively writing content about an impractical docker alternative, and you should be golden.

Snark aside, they could codify exactly what frequency of self-posting is allowed, and let the existing voting system dictate what rises to the top. I'm not sure Lobsters sees any issues with how they self-moderate though. Personally, I have always felt that invite-only communities have weird vibes to them. Still find it worth lurking for more esoteric content though.

Re: Lobsters

#54
post #46

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

This is a common failure mode that's seen in some reddit subs. In reddit, the moderators of that sub get a particular idea of how their sub should look, which oddly enough includes the idea that what they do is always right. Any sub that can have physical products backing it, such as makeup, will commonly fall in this trap. Mods: "You cannot promote products here... (unless you're one of my friends or giving me kickb…

This resembles exactly the description of moderation in /r/italy. There are more people banned from there than people subscribing this subreddit.

Re: Lobsters

#56
post #11

Not a fan of having to beg for an invitation. Seems like HN is able to handle moderation with a small crew.

> Seems like HN is able to handle moderation with a small crew.

A certain amount of moderation. There's still a large amount of content posted on here that should probably have been moderated but isn't (for whatever reason.)

Re: Lobsters

#57
post #48

Lobste.rs definitely feels like less of an echo chamber: both Reddit and HN have a large "I don't agree with you, downvote" population - on HN this is officially endorsed as "correct" use too.

According to my experience rather on Lobsters participants seem to be mostly concerned with nagging. Rarely got a useful or positive comment for my posts there. There is a small circle of users who have a particularly good relationship with the admin and flag everything they don't like. I had much better discussions and more useful feedback on some subreddits. I agree that the downvoting possibility encourages misuse…

Flagged as what though?

Without seeing actual examples of posted articles that were flagged it's honestly impossible to make any judgement.

Edit: I should point out that this isn't a hypothetical question either. As the moderation log is open, we can see exactly why a user was banned or post was removed etc.

Re: Lobsters

#58
post #46

I had an account here. I still do. Like some other people point out: Invitation-only means trolls are less likely to show up. But the higher end of quality is not significantly better than HN. If anything, it might be worse. My experience with the moderation there is that some people post clear self-promotion articles, but when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Wh…

This is a common failure mode that's seen in some reddit subs. In reddit, the moderators of that sub get a particular idea of how their sub should look, which oddly enough includes the idea that what they do is always right. Any sub that can have physical products backing it, such as makeup, will commonly fall in this trap. Mods: "You cannot promote products here... (unless you're one of my friends or giving me kickb…

>you have a very large usebase to keep the sub alive.

I don't know about that. You have a large userbase of upvoters sure, but commenter were declining in quantity long before the June API changes on a number of subs that were more discussion based than meme or article upvotes.

https://subredditstats.com/r/conspiracy Conspiracy is a good example of a discussion sub, no comment on the actual discussions, driven by upvotes and were did all the commenters go before June's API disruption while the subscribers kept climbing?

Re: Lobsters

#59
post #35
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when I attempted to post my things, I get told that this content is not welcome on the site. Why my content is not welcome and other people's self-promotional articles are I don't quite understand, but it is obvious they don't need me on the website. I feel the same. I spent a fair bit of time on the site, including posting ~600 articles and commenting. Some of my posts got a fair bit of upvotes. I got a couple of…

Weird because primarily submitting one's own stuff seems to be pretty common there. Random example from a user currently on the front page: https://lobste.rs/~rednafi/stories And that is not the only one on the front page right now that's submitting mostly their own stuff.

That user's submissions are all within the past week. You may have found someone gaming the site.

Re: Lobsters

#60
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a common failure mode that's seen in some reddit subs. In reddit, the moderators of that sub get a particular idea of how their sub should look, which oddly enough includes the idea that what they do is always right. Any sub that can have physical products backing it, such as makeup, will commonly fall in this trap. Mods: "You cannot promote products here... (unless you're one of my friends or giving me kickb…

This resembles exactly the description of moderation in /r/italy. There are more people banned from there than people subscribing this subreddit.

WTH happened in November 2021 to kill that sub?
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