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Re: UniFi Express

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Post by InTheArena »

barkerja wrote: post #72
chunkyks wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought into their unifi ecosystem years ago. Separate devices, prosumer pricing, features and quality, single pane of glass. ... And I haven't upgraded anything since. Their new products are totally undirected, they aren't making items that are obvious and needed. Their software is falling behind and they just don't care. Case in point: the usg pro 4 is years old but they havent released an updated affordable just-…

I don't disagree, but since buying the UDM-Pro years ago, I feel like the software has gotten great. And recently, they've baked in Wireguard replacing L2TP. Personally, I'd like to see more prosumer devices that support 2.5GbE/10GbE.

2.5GB of this will be introduced next.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by forward1 »

jxi wrote: post #64

What would I get from this both hardware and software-wise that I don't get from ASUS routers?

A ton of proprietary software and the externalization of support on a third party.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by izacus »

Macha wrote: post #216
izacus wrote: post #124

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Having a few APs to cover a house is far from"advanced" setup. We live in times where lawn movers need wifi.

I guarantee you approximately everyone that does not work in tech has one AP, the one provided by their ISP. Unifi already has a range of prosumer products, this is them moving into the consumer space. The limitation is totally product segmentation, since their prosumer equivalent all in one (the UDR) costs double, but that's fine, I feel. It's not like they're raising the price of the existing offerings because this…

> I guarantee you approximately everyone that does not work in tech has one AP, the one provided by their ISP. Unifi already has a range of prosumer products, this is them moving into the consumer space.

I'm not sure what are you trying to say with this - yes, obviously, people who don't buy extra APs don't have extra APs, but why are they relevant to conversation about UniFi prosumer products?

It's not like UniFi customer base is a person who doesn't use anything outside their ISP equpiment.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by forward1 »

Always been intrigued by UniFi stuff, is it still the case you need an app to set up and configure their devices? I don't have an app store, and they don't publish their app elsewhere, so this was always a non-starter for me, and a weird design choice at that.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by Macha »

izacus wrote: post #234
Macha wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guarantee you approximately everyone that does not work in tech has one AP, the one provided by their ISP. Unifi already has a range of prosumer products, this is them moving into the consumer space. The limitation is totally product segmentation, since their prosumer equivalent all in one (the UDR) costs double, but that's fine, I feel. It's not like they're raising the price of the existing offerings because this…

> I guarantee you approximately everyone that does not work in tech has one AP, the one provided by their ISP. Unifi already has a range of prosumer products, this is them moving into the consumer space. I'm not sure what are you trying to say with this - yes, obviously, people who don't buy extra APs don't have extra APs, but why are they relevant to conversation about UniFi prosumer products? It's not like UniFi cu…

This isn't a prosumer product. You aren't adding these to an existing Unifi install. The prosumer version of this device is the UDR. This is Unifi releasing a cheap consumer product so when you, as a person who knows their tech stack, need to suggest a all in one device for someone who would otherwise have just an ISP router, there is a product that costs in the same price range as the netgears and tp-link devices in that range. Or when someone curious about upgrading from the bargain basement tier to mid range equipment has a new cheaper entry level product which might encourage them to try.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by NelsonMinar »

It's funny the screenshots include their traffic accounting graphs. The data in those are complete garbage and have been for years. I run the installable controller on an Ubuntu server. It shows me last month my Playstation downloaded 66.7GB, or 6GB, or 1.66GB. Two of those on the same screen! (The real number may be close to 66.7GB.)

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by wredue »

InTheArena wrote: post #228

This thread is kinda bonkers. People complain about the USG3 not being able to route 1gb/s (IIRC, it's 10 years old, and always capped at 250mb/s), or the UDMP Pro at 10GB/s IDS/IDP (It can run at 2.5GB/s with IDP and IDS). Wireguard and policy based routing (which is why most people were sticking away from their routers) are in place, and far simpler to maintain then alternating options from PFSense and Cisco. The m…

And also, $192 is not at all a bad price tag. It’s actually a bit surprising as UI stuff is classically viewed as a bit overpriced.

That said, I have a UniFi router and 3 wifi 6 APs and my network is super solid. Way better than any prosumer targeted router (note that I previously ran 3 netgear nighthawk). The UniFi stack was actually cheaper and is unquestionably more reliable. If you’re looking at those very high end prosumer routers, I’d very much advise taking a step back and looking at alternatives.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by chunkyks »

rompledorph wrote: post #163
chunkyks wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought into their unifi ecosystem years ago. Separate devices, prosumer pricing, features and quality, single pane of glass. ... And I haven't upgraded anything since. Their new products are totally undirected, they aren't making items that are obvious and needed. Their software is falling behind and they just don't care. Case in point: the usg pro 4 is years old but they havent released an updated affordable just-…

Just don’t use the built in firewall and use an external of your choice. That works for me.

But then you lose many of the benefits of a single pane of glass.

There's also the trust issue; the VPN problem has been known for years. If they won't maintain a key security component of their key security device, why would I trust them with anything?

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by twisteriffic »

samcat116 wrote: post #224
__float wrote: post #111

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This doesn't really seem comparable -- the big draw to the Express seems to be the WiFi built-in; at $149 for the Express vs $172 for the Gateway Lite + (at least) ~$100 for an AP, these are entirely different categories.

I don't think they're saying they're comparable, its just that a lot of people were waiting for the cheaper standalone firewall, which is what the gateway lite is. also its $129 not $172.

You've got it. I'm on my third boot drive replacement on my USG, have been worried that eventually something was going to break that I couldn't fix. Being able to enable traffic inspection and IDS will be great.
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