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Re: UniFi Express

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Post by heywire »

bhouston wrote: post #193

I was on unifi for a long time but I found it somewhat unreliable with a lot of issues. I switched over to TP-Link's Omada and now I never touch my network. I believe that TP-Link isn't as flashy, but they are rock solid. I prefer rock solid.

Another vote for TP-Link here. I’m a big fan of how easy it is to adopt new devices too. Most recently I had to add a switch for work VLAN purposes. While waiting for it to arrive, I preconfigured the VLANs in the controller. When it arrived, it was basically just plug and play.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by spacebacon »

jjoonathan wrote: post #62
cced wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why and how do you block application layer stuff like quic?

Tiny network tyrants gotta flex somehow.

Sure, large network tyrants really don’t like the tiny network tyrants that prefer their network traffic to be fully visible.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by samcat116 »

xvector wrote: post #51
whalesalad wrote: post #2

I love ubiquiti. My entire home network runs on their gear, with self-hosted management. I have infra deployed across the country in a remote office that runs their gear, with a cloud key. It's solid stuff all around. Don’t use any of their unifi routers tho, can’t speak to that. I have an ER-4 at home and the remote office has a pfsense 1U.

I kinda hate Ubiquiti routers. My UDM Pro felt like a total scam, with the IDS/IPS being nowhere close to advertised. They promised but never introduced WireGuard. I also experienced strange bugs in the stack. I eventually moved to OPNSense but the router I bought from them died. The interface was too cumbersome anyways, from the perspective of someone that just wanted WireGuard server+client, IPS/IDS, and VLAN. I fi…

Wireguard has been there for more than a year at this point?

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by samcat116 »

__float wrote: post #111
twisteriffic wrote: post #8

Never mind that, check this out: https://ca.store.ui.com/ca/en/pro/category/all-cloud-keys-ga... Finally a viable USG3 replacement.

This doesn't really seem comparable -- the big draw to the Express seems to be the WiFi built-in; at $149 for the Express vs $172 for the Gateway Lite + (at least) ~$100 for an AP, these are entirely different categories.

I don't think they're saying they're comparable, its just that a lot of people were waiting for the cheaper standalone firewall, which is what the gateway lite is. also its $129 not $172.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by cced »

spacebacon wrote: post #220
cced wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why and how do you block application layer stuff like quic?

When UDM shows you QUIC eats up the majority of your bandwidth you may decide to click to add a rule to block it. You may see a large reduction in overall daily bandwidth as a result. If you watch YouTube you are using QUIC. Certain QUIC vulnerabilities are a 3 or 4 packet compromise.

I’m Guessing the sites will then fallback to another protocol correct?

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by jasongill »

Macha wrote: post #216
izacus wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a few APs to cover a house is far from"advanced" setup. We live in times where lawn movers need wifi.

I guarantee you approximately everyone that does not work in tech has one AP, the one provided by their ISP. Unifi already has a range of prosumer products, this is them moving into the consumer space. The limitation is totally product segmentation, since their prosumer equivalent all in one (the UDR) costs double, but that's fine, I feel. It's not like they're raising the price of the existing offerings because this…

I know so many people who don't work in tech - some who work in blue collar jobs, in fact - that have Eero or Orbi or similar easy to use network extenders set up. Wanting to have wifi coverage away from the ISP-provided router isn't something that only tech insiders desire.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by tjoff »

tecleandor wrote: post #219
Someone1234 wrote: post #82

This product that has a huge caveat that limits it to many people's applications: > UniFi Express supports up to 5 connected UniFi Network devices, including other UniFi Express units, switches, and WiFi access points. Even my home has one AP per floor (3x) and 3x Unifi switches. This is clearly an artificial limitation for market segmentation reasons. I'm not going to rip out Unifi switches to go unmanaged, just for…

I don't understand this. The first use case screenshot shows 8 devices connected. What does that small print mean? https://ui.com/microsite/static/media/use-case-2.fd99bcc2.jp...

Those are different sites, you wouldn't have 8 routers in one place.

So I guess each one of those devices can manage 5 unifi devices, going only by the image it looks like in their setup there is one AP for each device (if that is how the ui works).

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by InTheArena »

This thread is kinda bonkers.

People complain about the USG3 not being able to route 1gb/s (IIRC, it's 10 years old, and always capped at 250mb/s), or the UDMP Pro at 10GB/s IDS/IDP (It can run at 2.5GB/s with IDP and IDS). Wireguard and policy based routing (which is why most people were sticking away from their routers) are in place, and far simpler to maintain then alternating options from PFSense and Cisco. The magic VPN stuff really feels like Apple when it just works.

Their WAPs are a bit pricey on for 6E support, but otherwise are generally considered the best prosumer WAPs available, and competitive (and cheaper) then most enterprise options. They are overkill if you don't need management, but in a IoT world, you need VLAN management. The VOP and security cameras and phones are solid. Best of all this run cloudless. You buy the hardware, the software is free and runs locally. Even their enterprise software is being ported to run on device (and free for prosumer use cases)

This is part of three new devices that are strongly targeting the old Apple base station market. The third - UDR ultra - is coming out soon (it was leaked in the same art dump that this and the other device was leaked) and has 2.5GB/s WAN and LAN. IF you want to run their VOIP / camera / door system, there is the UDM Pro and UDM Pro SE. I have the base level UDM Pro with a 2.5 GB/s primary and a 1GB fiber secondary. Works great, auto-failover, firewall management, VPN, RADIUS, etc.

In general, if you want WIFI and network that just works, but still does policy based routing, VLAN management, can dump to Prometheus (with unifipoller), run VOIP and security cameras (even with Homekit secure support, thanks to Scrypted), this is the solution for you. I run my in-laws and my parents network stack remotely with UDRs. I highly recommend them.

If you want to run your own hardware, or have even more power, buy your own and run OPNsense, or go upmarket. For everyone else, this stack rocks.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by spacebacon »

cced wrote: post #225
spacebacon wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When UDM shows you QUIC eats up the majority of your bandwidth you may decide to click to add a rule to block it. You may see a large reduction in overall daily bandwidth as a result. If you watch YouTube you are using QUIC. Certain QUIC vulnerabilities are a 3 or 4 packet compromise.

I’m Guessing the sites will then fallback to another protocol correct?

Yes plain UDP or TCP.

Re: UniFi Express

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Post by InTheArena »

chunkyks wrote: post #44
stbenjam wrote: post #10

Another confused product from UniFi. Is it targeting home users or businesses? It looks like businesses from their web page yet feels very much like a better fit for home. It only runs UniFi Network, so you have to buy more things, that also run UniFi Network, to get into any of their other products like Protect. I like their stuff but lately a lot of their stuff feels just confused to me, like they don't know what t…

I bought into their unifi ecosystem years ago. Separate devices, prosumer pricing, features and quality, single pane of glass. ... And I haven't upgraded anything since. Their new products are totally undirected, they aren't making items that are obvious and needed. Their software is falling behind and they just don't care. Case in point: the usg pro 4 is years old but they havent released an updated affordable just-…

This apparent is adoptable. So it's a just-the-border device.

Not sure why you think the VPN doesn't work. I haven't had a problem.

The doorbell is awesome. The POE ceiling lights were a mistake.

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