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Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands That's wild. Never tried that before but just did and I can 100% repro.

Only the first and third do anything for me, but both seem to add the same high pitch tone to the mix.

I get more buzzing with the first and third as well. I like the go biting doesn’t seem to change it for me.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

I have exactly the same thing. Most tinnitus is caused damage to the hair cells in the cochlea from loud noises for extended periods of time (as is mine). My theory is that the brain basically turns up the gain to compensate for the poor performance of the sensor. I think tinnitus is basically interference, or cross-talk from other nervous processes that normally are low level background.

Last time I went for a hearing test the doctor asked me if I had been in an explosion (not to my knowledge).

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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>It’s been a longstanding idea that these symptoms, known as tinnitus, arise as a result of a maladaptive plasticity of the brain. In other words, the brain tries to compensate for the loss of hearing by increasing its activity, resulting in the perception of a phantom sound, tinnitus. I can't say I buy that. I've got tinnitus. Also sometimes my brain has a loss of input as I can't see, hear of feel something and it'…

The produced by the brain aspect as never washed with me too. My tinnitus started right after a severe sinus infection that spread to my ears. I was so blocked up an needing some sleep that I did a nasal wash and was to forceful in blowing my nose (my ears popped). Since then tinnitus has been there everyday, whereas 35 years before never even knew it was a thing.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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I don’t know if this is a clue, but I can do muscle movements in my head/face/jaw to make the tinnitus worse (only as I make the movements, immediately reverting back to “normal” tinnitus as soon as I relax). Some examples: - jutting my jaw forwards - moving my ears back with my face muscles - pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands Another possible clue: this has been true since I can remember — even as…

> pushing downward on the top of my head with my hands

I've never tried or noticed this before until you mentioned it, but this makes my tinitus noticeably worse. It's not really louder, but seems to add "harmonics".

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Honestly you should probably just get a professional hearing aid, they do a hearing test and adjust its frequency response to your ears. The longer you wait with getting it, the harder it will be for your brain to adjust to processing the full corrected sounds.

I've been considering this more often lately. I was hoping for an inexpensive option since hearing aids are just earbuds with a custom tune.

They're not really, but I can see why Beltone stores would give you that impression. Go see an audiologist.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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>It’s been a longstanding idea that these symptoms, known as tinnitus, arise as a result of a maladaptive plasticity of the brain. In other words, the brain tries to compensate for the loss of hearing by increasing its activity, resulting in the perception of a phantom sound, tinnitus. I can't say I buy that. I've got tinnitus. Also sometimes my brain has a loss of input as I can't see, hear of feel something and it'…

The produced by the brain aspect as never washed with me too. My tinnitus started right after a severe sinus infection that spread to my ears. I was so blocked up an needing some sleep that I did a nasal wash and was to forceful in blowing my nose (my ears popped). Since then tinnitus has been there everyday, whereas 35 years before never even knew it was a thing.

The theory isn’t that it’s caused by the brain alone, but rather it’s like the fandom limb pain sensation after an amputation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_limb

The difference is your auditory nerve doesn’t directly carry touch signals so you hear sounds instead of say an itch.

Re: Tinnitus linked to undetected auditory nerve damage

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Ya I also have had wisdom teeth removed and TMJ issues for a long time, and it also seems related. The nice thing about Osteopathy is that it's very gentle so it shouldn't be as dangerous as more aggressive or invasive treatments. Some Osteopaths are especially experienced with ear-related things. I've had very, very good results from it personally. For me the biggest help has been that as well as general physio/exer…

Could you link a video or something on the exercises you do? Not sure what eccentric means in that context.

Here are the streches:

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AkOl7L0amzk1gZJkufVhfYr8q1vtbw?e=tjuBWD

And for the resistant band thing, kind of like this video. But I put the resistance band in a door at a 90 degree angle to my head and I focus on the "eccentric" movment, slowly bringing it back into upright position and letting it pull the muscles and lengthen them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EG7z_qsYNY&ab_channel=Rehab...

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