Can someone please explain why they are using styrofoam inside the walls of the cathedral? Styrofoam is basically plastic.
Probably for insulation to reduce heating costs.
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#42Can someone please explain why they are using styrofoam inside the walls of the cathedral? Styrofoam is basically plastic.
It's exactly plastic. It's probably thermal insulation. Certainly my house has thick sheets of expanded polystyrene in the floor, and in the roof. I think in the walls is glass fibre, but you can use plastic foam too.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because many people believe that making beautiful things is a way to praise their God. Hopefully they're entitled to spend their money the way they like.
> beautiful things My first association is "fake" - which _is_ appropriate to describe (especially the roman catholic) churches (organisations, not buildings). But I guess that that's not their intention ;) > Hopefully they're entitled to spend their money the way they like. I don't know about the US, but in Europe spending money in such a way would be heavily criticised.
> My first association is "fake"
Better fake than the the latest fad in architecture.
At least fake gothic could never have resulted in brutalist buildings.
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#44Where do monks get the money to build this beast?
The real question is "why"? And why would anybody think that's a good idea?
Well, the money is theirs to spend, plus it's exactly on-brand for a religious organization to put traditional aesthetics over economic efficiency. I doubt that their donors are dissatisfied. If it was a government doing this with taxpayer money, then it would be different.
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#45I was told we can't build like that anymore.
Well, technically, at the scale to house urban populations - no, because a) it’s expensive b) the talent is super scarce c) it’s so much cheaper and easier to source concrete buildings I’m sure one could source enough talent for few baroque villas or such but I have no idea what the budget would be. Obvious example is Gaudi’s La Sagrada Familia - don’t know how much of that is ’traditional’ vs ’non-traditional’ thoug…
b and c aren’t really applicable if you use modern methods for producing the decoration and still use concrete for the underlying structure. Modern builders just hate decoration due to bias. I’m not even sure cost is necessarily a reason because lots of bizarre and unnecessary structure is added to some buildings just to make them unique.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because many people believe that making beautiful things is a way to praise their God. Hopefully they're entitled to spend their money the way they like.
> beautiful things My first association is "fake" - which _is_ appropriate to describe (especially the roman catholic) churches (organisations, not buildings). But I guess that that's not their intention ;) > Hopefully they're entitled to spend their money the way they like. I don't know about the US, but in Europe spending money in such a way would be heavily criticised.
I feel like you're generalizing "Europe" a bit. Look at the Orthodox church, they are deep-pocketed and heavily funding the construction of monasteries, an example being Romania. It's a common thing to see in Romania actually - a lot of churches being built, to a point where it's become a running joke that there are more churches than hospitals in Romania. It's a sad thing to see, but there's plenty of that in "Europe".
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#47I could not find out how much a stone CNC milling machine costs. Does anyone know? It would be amazing to build a house with decorative elements like this. I've considered it for wood before -- but external carved stone would be amazing.
any of these machines range $20-500k, depending on age, tech, quality, accuracy, etc.
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#48Having read Anathem recently, I'm disappointed that they aren't taking it upon themselves to learn how to do it by hand.
They are doing it themselves though, just with modern tools.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shocker, the Bauhaus graduates didn’t want people thinking different. ;)
Brutalism is yet another form of socialism that managed to make the world a bit sadder.
I don't disagree, but i don't like how you make out socialism as the villain, sounds like you grew up with a lot of cold war propaganda. The absence of socialism means violence and war. If the states had a working social system, crime rates would be much lower.
Personally I like to blame humanism for everything, that is, the delusion that humans are somehow better than what we really are.
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#50I was told we can't build like that anymore.
Look into:
Institute of Classical Architecture & Art : https://www.classicist.org/
National Civic Art Society: https://www.civicart.org/