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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

kcb wrote: post #458
threeseed wrote: post #303

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You are free to do whatever you like. And others are free to do what they like. Which for most people includes making judgements about who you are based on the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the style of haircut etc. And buying a Cybertruck does imply that you either (a) agree with or (b) are ambivalent about Musk's behaviour.

Sure but the person judging the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the style of haircut etc. certainly is silly to try to make themselves the non-asshole in this story.

It depends if the clothes in question involve things like a t-shirt that says "I endorse hateful, anti-semetic conspiracy theories".

In that case, the wearer would be the asshole, and the observer not.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by rpmisms »

themoonisachees wrote: post #817
rpmisms wrote: post #719

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Except that in all of America that isn't a city (most of it), a truck is a super useful tool and requiring a CDL would basically be a bad joke.

And yet trucks are huge without a material increase in bed space. If the auto makers can skirt around the law to make everything a truck, surely In this hypothetical, they would make smaller trucks and make them "cars"

You'd pretty much have to repeal a ton of safety laws. Today's Tacoma is the size of an f-150 of 20 years ago, but still can't tow or haul as much. Gotta deliver practicality!

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by el_toast »

alvah wrote: post #517
XorNot wrote: post #402

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Well this is sticking your head in the sand about it. People own trucks because while trucks might not be particularly good at some things, they're also not particularly bad at them. If you need to move large or heavy items occasionally, it's really handy having a truck...and the thing is, it won't be bad at doing car things either. To the specific example here, you also have the obvious missing part: people are havi…

"People complain about trucks without even trying to understand where the motivation to own them comes from." Agree 100%. I have a Ford Ranger on order, and I am not a construction worker. I've already fielded some "hurr durr what do you need a truck for / it will never be on a construction site" comments. The thing is, even if I only need the adjustable roof rack for 5m lengths of timber, or the 3.5-ton towing capac…

A viewpoint I frequently see missing is having a truck is fun, especially when I want to go piss around outdoors. Sure a car is technically more useful/efficient day to day but it's not going to get me over sand, mud, or even slightly rough patches of ground on the weekend. I can throw a bunch of stuff in the back and don't really have to think if it'll all fit.

Construction and hauling aren't the only uses for a truck and without my Ranger my numerous moves would have been significantly more involved and annoying. Plus for road trips having the extra space over a car is more comfortable with the added benefit of the bed, which carries way more than a trunk.

I think the HN folks tend to forget about how spread out the US is and how many people drive for trips. Or maybe they've just forgot how to have fun. Btw the Ranger is great.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by wolrah »

awkwardpotato wrote: post #730
whicks wrote: post #602

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It was done for the Rivian R1T first, in March of 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acSdPy38XKU&pp=ygUScjF0IHRvd...

Actually, MotorTrends pulled this exact stunt (Tesla pulling fast car vs fast car) all the way back in 2016 with the Model X vs Alfa Romeo 4C. Original full video seems to have been deleted but here's a Vimeo re-upload: https://vimeo.com/253258542 MotorTrend's Instragram promoting a short clip of it: https://www.instagram.com/p/BDHcw67Ixw1/

Chris Harris did it back in 2013 with two ICE vehicles (G63 AMG pulling a Fiesta ST) when the modern EV era was just getting started and none were officially rated to tow: https://youtu.be/5Ea7k3VAdi8

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by hermitcrab »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #820

It's a brutally agressive looking machine - I assume intentionally so. That flat front pretty much guarantees padestrian/cyclist/motorcyclist fatailities in a collision. And over on Ars Technica they say "Musk implied that in a crash with another vehicle, the Cybertruck [...] will destroy the other vehicle." [1] - and presumably therefore kills its occupants too. Opinion: this is the purest physical realisation of th…

It can apparently also withstand a baseball thrown at the window at speed manageable by an unathletic 8 year old. Impressive. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-67586213

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by devnullbrain »

iainmerrick wrote: post #874
devnullbrain wrote: post #859

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Transformationally easier packaging requirements.

Can you clarify? You just mean by going from a round wheel to a rectangular yoke, right? (I assume you don't mean removing the whole steering column. That's definitely a big deal, but it's independent of the shape of the steering control)

I was talking about the steering column - looks like I missed what OP was focusing on.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by poulpy123 »

gambiting wrote: post #836
poulpy123 wrote: post #830

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what I don't get is why the effect of a crash on other isn't taken into account in the evaluation of car safety

The impact to pedestrians is taken into account. The impact on other cars isn't, because I don't see how you'd do that objectively - do you just crash it against an identical model? A selection of several other cars from different categories/brands? How would you determine those? Do you just test head-on collisions, or the whole gauntlet of impacts? Wouldn't that make any test require dozens and dozens of vehicles, a…

it would be possible to test the effect of the car on a (or several) standardized objects, and compare the car resistance to these standardized objects

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by _ea1k »

stetrain wrote: post #695
_ea1k wrote: post #690

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IIUC, Ultium is 400V in operation and only switches to 800V while charging on 800V units. This sounds a little different. It operates at 800V and switches to 400V for charging. I think that will simplify things and hopefully avoid Ultium's weird glitches during charging.

Presumably it can charge either at 400V or 800V depending on the charger it's plugged into. But I think you're right, Ultium is still a 400V drive architecture versus this being an 800V drive architecture.

True, I left out that part. :)

TBH, I'm really looking forward to seeing the Tesla tested on 800V CCS chargers via the adapter. It seems like it is at least possible that it might charge faster on those than on the current 400V superchargers.

Of course, that would change if Tesla starts enabling 800V support on V3/V4.

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