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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by dkjaudyeqooe »

throwitaway222 wrote: post #693
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #676

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No, they didn't. From the details page: "We've assumed a fuel economy of 20.0 miles per gallon for a comparable gasoline powered truck. We've also assumed the national average of $0.16 per kilowatt-hour for residential electricity (assumed for 100% of charging) and $3.30 per gallon for gasoline over the next three years."

And in CA, it's $0.30 per KWH, so extremely misleading if you are there - which most of the purchases will be at. Also in CA that price is going up 5% per year.

In the UK that's more like $0.45 and in Germany $0.60.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by dkjaudyeqooe »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #713

One of the issues it'll face in Europe is weight. One source I found for the "cyberbeast" model claims a 6843-pound curb weight. That's 3.1 metric tons. While there are discussions for special allowances for electric cars, the current limit of what you're allowed to drive with a normal driving license in the EU is 3.5 tons of gross vehicle weight rating. In other words, in order to allow most people to drive the Cybe…

Sounds like owners will end up paying higher taxes due to road damage and tire pollution.

Don't want to even think about what happens when you're hit by one of these things.

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Post by p1mrx »

bdamm wrote: post #532
solidr53 wrote: post #487

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E-GMP (EV6, Ioniq5) actually charges quite fast on 400V as they run it through the motor/inverter which already pumps out more than 100kW I think no one else is doing that at the moment.

Wait, what? They're converting their motor controller into a 400V-800V DC transformer?

yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm4VDfdKUm0&t=719s

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Post by dharmab »

65a wrote: post #702
kllrnohj wrote: post #392

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Lexus is already doing steer by wire, they used it to make a vehicle with a yoke that didn't suck to operate (as much anyway): https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-lexus-rz450e-steer-b...

Hasn't VAG had steer-by-wire for nearly a decade now?

Only as part of four-wheel-steering systems in combination with mechanical steering for the front wheels.

Nissan has steer-by-wire with a backup mechanical system.

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Post by inferiorhuman »

giobox wrote: post #588
inferiorhuman wrote: post #587

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Nah, there are variable ratio mechanical systems. On a rack and pinion setup, for instance, you vary the spacing of the teeth on the rack. ZF's been doing this for decades.

Generally speaking almost all mechanical steering systems are not dynamic though, you are missing the point entirely. It can't change the spacing of the teeth on the fly - steer by wire effectively does. The number of turns lock to lock on a mechanical system is almost always the same, regardless of speed. With steer by wire, you can easily implement say one turn lock to lock at low speed for easier parking, increasi…

  It can't change the spacing of the teeth on the fly.
Geez, Elon really ought to start a goalpost moving company. But hey I'll play: yes, yes it can. That's precisely what BMW's active steering is, yes it's mechanical, yes it varies the ratio depending on speed, and yes it's been around for a couple decades now.

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Post by rpmisms »

LTL_FTC wrote: post #297
dsr_ wrote: post #270

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Oh. Actually, let me tell you: Most trades workers don't need full-sized pickup trucks. They do need an 8 foot bed. An amazing number of full-sized pickups come with 6.5 foot beds by default, and cost extra for the 8 foot. They won't put 2 tons of gravel in there; they will put plywood sheets and lumber and power tools; boxes of nails and air compressors; the toolbox that they always want, the toolbox for this job, a…

I think most trades would be better served by a van rather than a pickup truck. Ingress and egress is much easier. It is also easier to load and drive due to lower center of gravity. Expensive tools are out of the elements and generally safer (and so less risk of tools and material making their way onto the highway). Plus, better drag coefficient and so better efficiency. Finally, a roof rack allows for those items y…

My electrical contractor relative just bought a Metris over a Maverick because of storage space and interior shelving. This is extremely common. People who work outdoors usually prefer pickups because they have larger equipment and materials, and more varied terrain

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Post by dymk »

lmm wrote: post #673
dymk wrote: post #639

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pedestrian safety isn’t an arcane science. Here’s some info on how car shape affects pedestrian safety: https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/vehicles-with-higher-more-v...

So height and angle are what matters, and it looks like this Tesla does better on height and no worse on angle than a typical US truck. Why exactly did you think it was particularly high risk for pedestrians again?

It is far worse than the trucks. It’s high, and has a negative rake. It’s like they tried to make the least safe shape possible for pedestrians. Guess they could fit a claymore on the front.

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Post by rpmisms »

chrisco255 wrote: post #544
paulddraper wrote: post #171

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Not just you. Anyone who uses a truck a lot will have a 150+ --- How many programmers do you see with MacBook Airs

M1 MacBook Airs are solid and it's my daily driver as a programmer. But I also drive an F350 King Ranch Super Duty (I tow a 20k pound fifth wheel with it that I live in full time) so go figure.

You. I like you. I only have the M1 Air half of that, and I don't think my farm would fit in a trailer, but I appreciate the priorities.

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Post by rpmisms »

wepple wrote: post #251
js2 wrote: post #222

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I'd take that bet. The Ranger isn't manufactured anymore (edit: yes it is; can't recall having seen one though) and I've never seen a Maverick used commercially. I don't think I've even seen one that didn't look freshly washed. I mean, this isn't even hard to figure out: the F-150 is the best selling vehicle (not truck, but vehicle) in the U.S. for what, a decade or more?

+1 who in their right mind would use a maverick for actual work? Ford don’t even pretend to market to those folks. https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/ It’s a Subaru with a truck bed

For people who want some towing, some cargo, and good mileage. I've seen a couple landscapers using them. If you're towing a single mower and some trimmers/blowers, it's a good deal, and you can still take it into town and not look like an idiot.

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Post by awkwardpotato »

whicks wrote: post #602
everfrustrated wrote: post #72

Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

It was done for the Rivian R1T first, in March of 2022: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acSdPy38XKU&pp=ygUScjF0IHRvd...

Actually, MotorTrends pulled this exact stunt (Tesla pulling fast car vs fast car) all the way back in 2016 with the Model X vs Alfa Romeo 4C.

Original full video seems to have been deleted but here's a Vimeo re-upload: https://vimeo.com/253258542 MotorTrend's Instragram promoting a short clip of it: https://www.instagram.com/p/BDHcw67Ixw1/

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