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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

LTL_FTC wrote: post #340
jansan wrote: post #199

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Great thing of the Cybertruck's stainless steel is that you cannot scratch the paint with the rivets of your expensive jeans. I likes the Russ Hanneman character so much that during COVID lockdowns, when I was a bit down, I paid Chris Diamantopoulos (the actor) on Cameo to do a short motivational video for me.

Would you be willing to share it? That sounds pretty awesome!

A motivational video from Russ Heneman would be in the lines of "Look at this guy right here, this guy fucks!"

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by akmarinov »

nxm wrote: post #847
akmarinov wrote: post #841

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Not great - https://youtu.be/wqcu0j3Wsys?t=815

It actually did great. The occupant area was minimally damaged - the front end absorbed the collision as it was designed to do. The driver would have walked away from this collision. Tesla makes some of the safest vehicles on the road from a driver/occupant perspective, but lately HN loves to hate on Tesla.

Well, not really - not much crumple zone in the front and the way the sides haven't crumpled at all means all of that force went into the occupant area.

Tesla does make some of the safest vehicles, I agree, but probably not the Cybertruck. Let's wait and see the crash test results before speculating, either of us could be wrong.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by devnullbrain »

aurea wrote: post #838
furyg3 wrote: post #835

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It is. One of the key differences between the EU and US regulations is (was?) that there is a greater evaluation of what happens to a pedestrian when hit by the car being tested.

I hope this car never makes it into Europe in current form.

Tesla have made statements saying that it won't. As a layman, I don't think the flat front is possible.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by adverbly »

mcnnowak wrote: post #22

> Prices assume ... est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years. Seems shady

Indeed... Pretty annoying that they assume your alternative to be an ICE and not bike/train/ev.

Perhaps they should provide an option for a hypothetical price comparison with train/bike? Not sure the marketing team would like how that comparison turns out through...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by gambiting »

iainmerrick wrote: post #849
gambiting wrote: post #839

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>>What's the upside? A much easier to manouver car, because you can get true variable speed ratio steering. It's explained really well here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agMrewRJTow Tbh I still think it's a bit of a silly idea. But it's not completely without its merits(the one done by Tesla was though - that was completely entirely pointless).

I just meant the yoke -- variable ratio steering would still work with a wheel, right? I'm skeptical but I can see the potential benefits of drive-by-wire, definitely. The yoke, nope (except maybe for racing drivers).

Oh I guess it's just that once you elimited the need to ever turn the steering device more than 90 degrees, it doesn't need to be a wheel anymore - same reason why bicycles don't have steering wheels but handlebars.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by kalleboo »

XorNot wrote: post #783
kalleboo wrote: post #663

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Although if you wanted to, I don't see why you couldn't build a CAN switch?

I think the question would be why would you want to? At the point you're doing that, ethernet already exists including plenty of industrial specced hardware.

Presumably so you can reuse all of your existing CAN car parts. Even the lights are on CAN now, it's going to be a lot of stuff to transition to Ethernet.

And you have thieves stealing cars by hacking into the easily-accessible car light CAN bus - a CAN network switch could also act as a firewall to fix those thefts without re-engineering every single part.

It makes sense for Tesla since they're more vertically integrated but other car manufacturers seem more "parts bin" and having to migrate your whole car over to a new architecture will limit the parts you can use massively until the whole industry switches.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by nameistaken »

akmarinov wrote: post #852
nxm wrote: post #847

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It actually did great. The occupant area was minimally damaged - the front end absorbed the collision as it was designed to do. The driver would have walked away from this collision. Tesla makes some of the safest vehicles on the road from a driver/occupant perspective, but lately HN loves to hate on Tesla.

Well, not really - not much crumple zone in the front and the way the sides haven't crumpled at all means all of that force went into the occupant area. Tesla does make some of the safest vehicles, I agree, but probably not the Cybertruck. Let's wait and see the crash test results before speculating, either of us could be wrong.

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by drcongo »

gambiting wrote: post #839
iainmerrick wrote: post #824

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Yikes! Even assuming it all works correctly and safely, who actually wants a steering wheel like that? What's the upside? The only possible advantage I can think of is that when you start the car up again after having reverse parked, it'll be more obvious what way the wheels are currently pointing, so you can straighten up. But that's such a trivial problem.

>>What's the upside? A much easier to manouver car, because you can get true variable speed ratio steering. It's explained really well here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agMrewRJTow Tbh I still think it's a bit of a silly idea. But it's not completely without its merits(the one done by Tesla was though - that was completely entirely pointless).

Forgive my ignorance, but is "variable speed ratio steering" not what the Citroen SM was doing 50 years ago? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIRAVI

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by devnullbrain »

iainmerrick wrote: post #824
kllrnohj wrote: post #392

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Lexus is already doing steer by wire, they used it to make a vehicle with a yoke that didn't suck to operate (as much anyway): https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-lexus-rz450e-steer-b...

Yikes! Even assuming it all works correctly and safely, who actually wants a steering wheel like that? What's the upside? The only possible advantage I can think of is that when you start the car up again after having reverse parked, it'll be more obvious what way the wheels are currently pointing, so you can straighten up. But that's such a trivial problem.

Transformationally easier packaging requirements.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by dan_hawkins »

devnullbrain wrote: post #853
aurea wrote: post #838

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I hope this car never makes it into Europe in current form.

Tesla have made statements saying that it won't. As a layman, I don't think the flat front is possible.

Sharp edges are also not allowed in most European countries.
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