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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Oh. Actually, let me tell you: Most trades workers don't need full-sized pickup trucks. They do need an 8 foot bed. An amazing number of full-sized pickups come with 6.5 foot beds by default, and cost extra for the 8 foot. They won't put 2 tons of gravel in there; they will put plywood sheets and lumber and power tools; boxes of nails and air compressors; the toolbox that they always want, the toolbox for this job, a…

I think most trades would be better served by a van rather than a pickup truck. Ingress and egress is much easier. It is also easier to load and drive due to lower center of gravity. Expensive tools are out of the elements and generally safer (and so less risk of tools and material making their way onto the highway). Plus, better drag coefficient and so better efficiency. Finally, a roof rack allows for those items y…

All but one of the contractors I’ve had working on my house over the last few years used vans: holds more and your stuff doesn’t get rained on or stolen.

The one exception was the HVAC guy who had an old 90s-size pickup, which he liked due to the better mileage. He needed to fit bulky stuff, not massively heavy things.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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I would like to know the range when towing 11,000 lbs. In the full size market, I can only think of the Nissan Titan as having less than 12,000 lb tow rating. A base Ford F150 has a 14,000 rating. When you move up to diesels, you can easily tow 20,000+ lbs and even at 10,000 lbs you take very little hit on range if your load is somewhat aerodynamic. Pulling a full-size Airstream you can still get 20+mpg even in a sma…

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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It's all ego. They need the large trucks to impress their coworkers who also have the large trucks.

Well this is sticking your head in the sand about it. People own trucks because while trucks might not be particularly good at some things, they're also not particularly bad at them. If you need to move large or heavy items occasionally, it's really handy having a truck...and the thing is, it won't be bad at doing car things either. To the specific example here, you also have the obvious missing part: people are havi…

> they're also not particularly bad at them.

Things trucks are particularly bad at: - Fuel efficiency - Safety (for pedestrians and everyone in smaller vehicles) - Noise

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Funny that the cheaper model's 0-60 time is listed as "4.1 SEC. 0-60 MPH", but the more expensive model is listed as "2.6 SEC. 0-60 MPH With rollout subtracted." The whole rollout for 0-60 thing is a big fuss in the car magazine subculture - instead of counting zero to 60 from a standstill, they now count zero to 60 in a drag race style, where you have to trip the starting light by going forward a foot or two. What t…

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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> Prices assume IRA Federal Tax Credits up to $7,500 for Rear-Wheel Drive and All-Wheel Drive and est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years. This seems like a new low in scammy marketing. I can't wait for everything to have wildly undermarked prices with small asterisks saying it's when you subtract all the ways it will save you money in the long term.

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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It's all ego. They need the large trucks to impress their coworkers who also have the large trucks.

Well this is sticking your head in the sand about it. People own trucks because while trucks might not be particularly good at some things, they're also not particularly bad at them. If you need to move large or heavy items occasionally, it's really handy having a truck...and the thing is, it won't be bad at doing car things either. To the specific example here, you also have the obvious missing part: people are havi…

"People complain about trucks without even trying to understand where the motivation to own them comes from."

Agree 100%. I have a Ford Ranger on order, and I am not a construction worker. I've already fielded some "hurr durr what do you need a truck for / it will never be on a construction site" comments. The thing is, even if I only need the adjustable roof rack for 5m lengths of timber, or the 3.5-ton towing capacity a few times a year, it's worth it for me. The common argument I hear is "just rent a truck when you need it" - do the people saying this have any idea how much of a PITA it is renting a vehicle vs using one you already own?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Holy mother of dark patterns!

The default tab in the table is the “PROBABLE SAVINGS*” tab instead of the actual prices. (There’s actually no actual price, just estimates.)

Besides, does anybody believe their estimated prices for “available in 2025”?

* From the same trusted salesman who sold robotaxies making $30k/year!

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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How would you feel if a Prius was advertised thousands of dollars under the actual number of dollars you pay for the car because of “fuel savings compared to a Camero over 5 years”? Or is it only OK when Tesla does it?

> Or is it only OK when Tesla does it? There's no reason to assume I'm biased towards Tesla here. If any carmaker wanted to say "our car is X% more efficient, and the average person could reasonably expect to save $Y", and then discount that from the sticker price, I would be okay with that. I don't think it's deceptive at all as long as the estimate is reasonable, and as long as there is clear communication about th…

Then where do you draw the line? I, and almost the entire developed world, draws the line at price = number of currency units required to leave the store with the item for sale. Every car could otherwise claim a deduction because it’s more fuel efficient than a sports car or a Rolls Royce or an F-350. And some cars don’t need as expensive of tires, should they claim that deduction? What about cars that are 2 wheel drive, there’s lots of savings there over 4 wheel drive…

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Do people making less than 150k buy 100k cars? I don't have a good sense for how Americans budget their vehicle purchases.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people making less than 150k buy $60k F-150s.

There’s a big difference between $60k and 100k.
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