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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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I'd bet good money the average Ford Ranger/Maverick hauls more than the average F-150 today > How many programmers do you see with MacBook Airs The people working on some of the most complex projects of our times rely on compute that isn't available in a laptop, so they're perfectly fine taking an Air. I personally used an M1 Air for a couple of years.

I'd take that bet. The Ranger isn't manufactured anymore (edit: yes it is; can't recall having seen one though) and I've never seen a Maverick used commercially. I don't think I've even seen one that didn't look freshly washed. I mean, this isn't even hard to figure out: the F-150 is the best selling vehicle (not truck, but vehicle) in the U.S. for what, a decade or more?

+1 who in their right mind would use a maverick for actual work? Ford don’t even pretend to market to those folks.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/

It’s a Subaru with a truck bed

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I see from the photos it will have side mirrors now, so no side cameras after all. Still haven't heard anything about crash testing, which I'm curious about since thick stainless steel isn't what one would usually associate with crumple zones. To be sure, I wouldn't want to be hit by one if I were a pedestrian in a crosswalk.

Crash tests are shown in the release videos. It'll probably end up with a pretty decent rating. 3mm stainless steel will crumple when confronted with several tons of weight behind it.

It's my understanding good front end crash tests are a bit simpler for ev's because you aren't worried about a 300 lb chunk of cast iron coming through to the front of cabin.

Pedestrians be dammed apparently. This is merica.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…

I feel like it already has limited social value except as a sort of MAGA hat for Elon. I predict it’ll have some rabid adherents but also develop a reputation as a vehicle for assholes - already in a lot of circles the Tesla brand has a negative association due to Elon behaving like a nepo bully.

I wish I was just an allowed to like things, without people coming up with some BS, especially political, about why I shouldn't. I suspect the bigger problem will be people like you, being judgmental assholes, rather than the "assholes" just buying something they think is neat.

I'm mostly looking forward to cars/trucks maybe not looking the same as they have for the last 50 years.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…

> this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle This describes most vehicles.

Especially most trucks

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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What you see listed and what the dealer will actually give it to you for are not necessarily the same thing, infamously so in the case of in-demand models like this.

Car dealers say they can’t sell EVs, tell Biden to slow their rollout https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38460281 I wonder if the price-gouge-EV-customers and complain-about-EV-subsidies groups overlap... Hmm.

I think probably it's a disjoint group, or at least a disjoint set of circumstances. What the dealers are complaining about are the rules phasing in about what % of your sales need to be EVs. There are some successes, like the F-150, but there are also a ton of terrible legacy manufacturer EVs that nobody wants to buy that are kinda just sitting around. If Ford and the other carmakers could make vehicles as popular as the F-150 in quantity, I don't think the dealers would care.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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I like how it looks and I find it weird people seem to believe that their opinion is absolute truth and that anybody who doesn't hate it is wrong.

What I found the most surprising is that implies people don't actually believe cars on the road right now are ugly. Do people really look at SUVs and think "wow, is that thing pretty?"

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My brother spends $100 a month to charge his Tesla at home. I fill up my hybrid less than once a month at about $40.

Call me crazy but I suspect you and your brother drive a different amount. $100/mo in a Tesla I ballpark at driving 1900 miles per month, so you're probably driving less than him, unless you get more than 150mpg in your hybrid.

That's pretty good ballpark. His electricity rate matters too, but I'm about $100-120/mo and average just under 2k miles.

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

We have a pipeline being built through our city right now. It's absolutely hilarious for me to see the temporary company parking lot for about 100 vehicles full of mostly pick up trucks because they're actually being shuttled between the construction site and the parking lot in ... buses. This is what I think of when people talk about how they need trucks :)

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I'd bet good money the average Ford Ranger/Maverick hauls more than the average F-150 today > How many programmers do you see with MacBook Airs The people working on some of the most complex projects of our times rely on compute that isn't available in a laptop, so they're perfectly fine taking an Air. I personally used an M1 Air for a couple of years.

I'd take that bet. The Ranger isn't manufactured anymore (edit: yes it is; can't recall having seen one though) and I've never seen a Maverick used commercially. I don't think I've even seen one that didn't look freshly washed. I mean, this isn't even hard to figure out: the F-150 is the best selling vehicle (not truck, but vehicle) in the U.S. for what, a decade or more?

The Ranger is made again, but it's huge compared to the 90's ones.

And the current F150 is much bigger than one from 10 years ago, so even an older F150 would be smaller than the current monstrosities.

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The 911 Turbo S has a 0-60 time of 2.6 seconds, but Car and Driver clocked it at 2.2. Its quarter-mile time is 10.1 seconds. https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-turbo-turbo-s I don't know what's going on with that video. If we take Tesla's numbers at face value, which I definitely don't given their history, the 911 Turbo S is dramatically faster on the straights. Is Tesla claiming that the Cybertruck gets faster…

It's clearly not a 911 Turbo or Turbo s. Probably a base 911. Also not discounting tesla shenanigans. Would be easy enough to run the 1/4 a few times and get the 911 nice heat soaked and way down on power.

Ah, so it's nothing. There are Mustangs that will beat a base-model 911 in a straight line.

I couldn't tell what model it was, as Twitter video has been broken for me for months.

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