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Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

That's a cool video, but very strange decision to have audio of Elon at some press conference or something instead of the actual race. You're expecting engines and tire screeches and instead it's like 5 or 10 mildly excited people that aren't there.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Smaller than an F150? Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area where there's more money being thrown around but trucks of that size and larger seem to be common for trade workers.

Not just you. Anyone who uses a truck a lot will have a 150+ --- How many programmers do you see with MacBook Airs

I'd bet good money the average Ford Ranger/Maverick hauls more than the average F-150 today

> How many programmers do you see with MacBook Airs

The people working on some of the most complex projects of our times rely on compute that isn't available in a laptop, so they're perfectly fine taking an Air. I personally used an M1 Air for a couple of years.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

When you say "we need" do you mean... "you want to see" ? The highest selling vehicles are trucks and so the company that makes the best selling car wants in. Seems logical and good for the industry

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Odd for me all my friends who farm or do construction own either the F150 or the equivalent dodge RAM truck. The other trucks either don’t have cabs big enough to fit multiple workers or fit full sheets of drywall. Now I’m in Canada, perhaps you’re European?

> Odd for me all my friends who farm or do construction own either the F150 or the equivalent dodge RAM truck.

From what I've seen at local lumber yards, new F150s and Rams are the trucks that the boss usually drives, not the workers who are actually picking up the material. They are buying and driving cheapest truck that gets the job done. It's an F-150, it's an older one. A lot of Toyota Tacomas though.

> Now I’m in Canada, perhaps you’re European?

I'm in the US.

> The other trucks either don’t have cabs big enough to fit multiple workers or fit full sheets of drywall.

Large sheet goods either go on the lumber rack or if it's enough, is delivered on a delivery truck. Usually not in the bed. That's for tools, bags of material, etc.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

#186

Steer by wire sounds like a disastrous idea to me, especially in a car made with attention to detail of Tesla. I'm not even sure where to start. It's less reliable, surely it must be (at least without significant investment into QA and redundancy). A physical wheel physically connected to bits turning the wheels, well, the power steering can do, but you can still turn the thing. Then, it's all software driven. And it…

Steer by wire is ok. We had all pedals by wire for ages. Hopefully they won't screw up the implementation again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agMrewRJTow

Gas not working is usually just inconvenient, brakes have physical failsafe, and steering is more important than both.

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That's the kind of math you use Tsiolkovsky rocket equation for. Best would be to do the EV equivalent of asparagus staging - you have all trucks providing acceleration, but trucks 1 and 2 are also being recharged by truck 3. You then jettison it once its battery runs dry, leaving you with trucks 1 and 2, the latter also charging the former. Again, drop truck 2 as it runs out of juice. This lets you get rid of excess…

Serious question: do any rocket launch schemes actually use asparagus staging? I vaguely remember hearing it adds too much complexity for a real world launch. Great in KSP though.

Technically the Space Shuttle, if you really stretch the definition.

I'm not aware of any others. The crossfeed is just too much of a failure risk.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

#189

> Prices assume IRA Federal Tax Credits up to $7,500 for Rear-Wheel Drive and All-Wheel Drive and est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years. This seems like a new low in scammy marketing. I can't wait for everything to have wildly undermarked prices with small asterisks saying it's when you subtract all the ways it will save you money in the long term.

The tax credit is guaranteed as long as you made less than 300k this year or last year (150k if not married), and it is now given directly at time of purchase instead of later when you file. Seems OK to include. The gas savings is much more speculative.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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EST. $96,390* CYBERBEAST DELIVERY IN 2024 320 MI. RANGE (EST.) 2.6 SEC. 0-60 MPH† 130 MPH TOP SPEED 845 HORSEPOWER 10,296 LB-FT TORQUE 11,000 LBS. TOWING CAPACITY

Bed does not fit a full sheet of plywood, so a deal-breaker for practical truck buyers. You’d assume 96” would be a default parameter in any generative model focused on “optimum truck.” Am I missing something? Enlighten me.

I’d say around 1% of new pickup trucks have an 8’ bed, if that. You ever seen a super duty (1-ton) crew cab truck with an 8’ bed? They’re like 22-23’ long, it’s ridiculous.

Not being able to carry sheet goods in the bed is something it shares virtually every other truck on the road. On a short-bed regular truck, you can get a roof rack along with posts that go in the back corners of the bed to create a rack capable of holding sheet goods, pipe, lumber, ladders, etc.

Regardless, why would you schlep around sheet goods in a pickup bed when you can have the supply house deliver them? The contractors I work with don’t waste time running to Home Depot to buy material, it’s delivered to the site by a supply house, courier, or company truck.

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