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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Smaller than an F150? Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area where there's more money being thrown around but trucks of that size and larger seem to be common for trade workers.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah look at planes. I'd rather have hydraulics and mechanical controls still in a car. Which is why I drive a primitive POS (Dacia Duster).

I think all airbus commercial jets are fly by wire.

Not totally. They have two redundant computers in the control loop. But they worked out this was a shitty idea if there was a failure so there are mechanical and electrical backup systems. Whilst "fly by wire" technically speaking they don't involve a computer in the loop.

I'd still rather have a totally mechanical backup.

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Stainless steel exterior with sharp edges. Not looking forwarding to seeing pedestrians get gored when these things run into them. Not holding my breath on good crash compatibility with cars, either. If you care about humans, you won't get one of these.

All full-size American pickups are pedestrian killers, particularly of toddlers.[1] There’s nothing unique about the Cybertruck in this respect.

They also are more than twice as likely to kill the occupants of other vehicles in crashes.[2]

The public policy choices that led to full-size pickups as currently designed becoming the family transport of choice were incredibly dumb.

So be mad about the Cybertruck, by all means. But all these vehicles are killers.

[1] https://www.wral.com/story/car-tech-to-prevent-frontover-acc...

[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/org/science/article/pii/S15389...

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Interesting that the marketing image on that page is clearly meant to suggest driving around on Mars. I think it is clear from the design and marketing that this truck is meant as a fashion statement not a work vehicle. It will be interesting to see if it catches on. I like some of the ideas used in the vehicle's construction, though I do not like how dangerous it appears to be for pedestrians. If I made a prediction…

I think there are lots of people that want an EV, but drive terrible roads.

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Odd for me all my friends who farm or do construction own either the F150 or the equivalent dodge RAM truck. The other trucks either don’t have cabs big enough to fit multiple workers or fit full sheets of drywall. Now I’m in Canada, perhaps you’re European?

This. Full sheets of almost everything are 4x8.

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EST. $96,390* CYBERBEAST DELIVERY IN 2024 320 MI. RANGE (EST.) 2.6 SEC. 0-60 MPH† 130 MPH TOP SPEED 845 HORSEPOWER 10,296 LB-FT TORQUE 11,000 LBS. TOWING CAPACITY

Bed does not fit a full sheet of plywood, so a deal-breaker for practical truck buyers. You’d assume 96” would be a default parameter in any generative model focused on “optimum truck.” Am I missing something? Enlighten me.

You can't get a Toyota Tacoma with an 8 ft bed, which IMO is the most practical truck model. An 8ft bed truck that can only carry 3 passengers is not very practical.

I regularly purchase 8'x4' sheet goods in my Tacoma with no issue.

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Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

I am a car enthusiast (although not one who could afford either a 911 nor a Cybertruck) but respectfully, who cares about quarter mile times? Most car people I know want a car with some poke, but care much more about how it handles twisties (and how much fun it is doing so). And I'd bet my bottom dollar the 911 would beat the refrigerator-looking truck all day long.

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

From what I’ve heard, trucks are huge now due to various fuel efficiency regulations. A big truck is easier to make with fewer regulations. It seems like all the electric trucks want to prove they are bigger and tougher than the ICE trucks, but it seems like the perfect platform for small trucks, as the the efficiency standards would become a moot point. I’m looking for trucks like the old Ford Ranger from the late 9…

> From what I’ve heard, trucks are huge now due to various fuel efficiency regulations. A big truck is easier to make with fewer regulations.

That's only a part the reason. The more important half is that bigger vehicles, whether trucks or SUVs, have much higher profit margins.

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Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

> > That's incredible marketing. Still the best statement to describe Musk and his companies.

Are you saying the best statement you can use to describe SpaceX is "incredible marketing"?
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