Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs • Hacker News Board

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by paulddraper » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:37 PM UTC

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #159

danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Smaller than an F150? Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area where there's more money being thrown around but trucks of that size and larger seem to be common for trade workers.

Not just you.

Anyone who uses a truck a lot will have a 150+

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by shepherdjerred » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:37 PM UTC

mminer237 wrote: post #27

> Prices assume IRA Federal Tax Credits up to $7,500 for Rear-Wheel Drive and All-Wheel Drive and est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years. This seems like a new low in scammy marketing. I can't wait for everything to have wildly undermarked prices with small asterisks saying it's when you subtract all the ways it will save you money in the long term.

This doesn't seem very different than advertising a price after a rebate.

Saving $1,200 a year on gas seems reasonable if you pay $4/gal and fill up a 14gal tank twice a month. I'm not sure about the tax credit -- I assume those are guaranteed to whoever purchases the vehicle, but maybe that's not the case.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by modeless » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:38 PM UTC

ttfkam wrote: post #164

I see from the photos it will have side mirrors now, so no side cameras after all. Still haven't heard anything about crash testing, which I'm curious about since thick stainless steel isn't what one would usually associate with crumple zones. To be sure, I wouldn't want to be hit by one if I were a pedestrian in a crosswalk.

Side mirrors are required by law, but they were supposed to be easily removable after delivery (which is legal). We'll see if that made it into the final version.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by m463 » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:38 PM UTC

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #159

danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

> Everyone I know doing construction/trade work tends to drive much smaller pickups. Smaller than an F150? Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area where there's more money being thrown around but trucks of that size and larger seem to be common for trade workers.

Trucks last longer in the bay area. The cost is amortized over basically... forever.

Take a 10-year old california pickup to anywhere with winter and people will be amazed.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by shepherdjerred » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:38 PM UTC

neogodless wrote: post #83

oh_sigh wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just click the "purchase price" tab instead of the "probable savings" tab.

Totally missed that subtle dark gray on black design element! You have to begin scrolling immediately to see the three trim levels, and by then, the tabs are lost forever. Quite literally fits the phrase "dark pattern", ha!

It shows a reasonable disclaimer at the bottom:

> * Prices assume IRA Federal Tax Credits up to $7,500 for Rear-Wheel Drive and All-Wheel Drive and est. gas savings of $3,600 over 3 years.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by bagels » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:39 PM UTC

baking wrote: post #64

lallysingh wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weekly I put $90 in the tank. Charging 100kw I believe would cost me $15. That figure seems about right.

My brother spends $100 a month to charge his Tesla at home. I fill up my hybrid less than once a month at about $40.

I spend $15/mo to charge my Tesla.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:39 PM UTC

everfrustrated wrote: post #72

Faster quarter mile drag speed than a Porsche 911 _while also towing a 911_ That's incredible marketing. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1730331223992472029

> > That's incredible marketing.

Still the best statement to describe Musk and his companies.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by dvngnt_ » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:39 PM UTC

neogodless wrote: post #38

tyingq wrote: post #18

Are there any videos of how well a driver can see out of this thing to the sides and rear? I can't imagine it's great.

mkbhd will be putting out a review soon. Otherwise we only have Tesla's marketing materials.

i've had the cybertruck for a few weeks now, here are my thoughts

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by whelp_24 » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:39 PM UTC

shrubble wrote: post #135

rich_sasha wrote: post #133

Steer by wire sounds like a disastrous idea to me, especially in a car made with attention to detail of Tesla. I'm not even sure where to start. It's less reliable, surely it must be (at least without significant investment into QA and redundancy). A physical wheel physically connected to bits turning the wheels, well, the power steering can do, but you can still turn the thing. Then, it's all software driven. And it…

Brake by wire has been a standard on many vehicles for at least a decade at this point. I would guess that steer by wire is a standard off the shelf module. Both Bosch and ZF at the least offer this.

Brake by wire has a physical backup

Re: Tesla Cybertruck Pricing and Specs

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Post by zitterbewegung » Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 10:40 PM UTC

danans wrote: post #78

The cheapest F150 Lightning (available today not in 2025) is $50k (vs $60k for Cybertruck), same 250 mile range but AWD standard , and is a regular pickup truck compatible with standard accessories and parts for doing actual pickup truck work. Of course, most of the buyers of either the Cybertruck or the F150 Lightning probably aren't getting much dirt under their fingernails. Everyone I know doing construction/trade…

I don’t think the perspective of selling product X should be judged in a vacuum because it can do things like subsidize battery costs.

For video cards they got to the point where average consumers could buy them and then that started the road to accelerator cards. Saying that people shouldn’t buy something is naive and disingenuous. People will buy things regardless of anything else.