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Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by scrlk »

ssharp wrote: post #4

I'm generally confused by how much "ATS-friendly" matters, or what that even means. On one side of the coin, it logically makes sense that ATS systems would help recruiters pare down the list. I'd assume there is some auto-rejection happening, but how sensitive is it (getting rid of clearly unqualified candidates vs. rejecting marginal candidates vs. actually qualified but still rejected due to not being ATS-friendly…

YMMV, but I started getting more responses when I switched from a LaTeX/PDF CV to a MS Word document with basic formatting (heading styles, bullet points, no tables).

I suspect that quite a few ATS were struggling to parse the PDF.

Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by [deleted] »

gumby wrote: post #7
ssharp wrote: post #4

I'm generally confused by how much "ATS-friendly" matters, or what that even means. On one side of the coin, it logically makes sense that ATS systems would help recruiters pare down the list. I'd assume there is some auto-rejection happening, but how sensitive is it (getting rid of clearly unqualified candidates vs. rejecting marginal candidates vs. actually qualified but still rejected due to not being ATS-friendly…

> On one side of the coin, it logically makes sense that ATS systems would help recruiters pare down the list. I'd assume there is some auto-rejection happening, but how sensitive is it When you have 1,000 applications for a job you don't care much about false negatives (having the system reject candidates you might have wanted). Instead you want the software to give you 100, or even 30 resumes to sift through in the…

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Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by Night_Thastus »

slg wrote: post #18

This is not a criticism of this software or the author as they have no personal responsibility for the larger system they operate in, but sometimes I see something like this, and I just think we live in a dystopia. Have we gotten to the point that jobseekers and employers are using adversarial AIs against each other in some attempt at optimization? What are we doing here? We seem to be on the path to this stuff oozin…

It's an unfortunate reality of modern communication and tools.

The incredible ease of modern communication allows businesses to show their offer to many more candidates that previously possible, and allows those many more candidates to respond from a greater distance and with more ease.

However, now there is a new problem - too many offers to sort through. It eats up their time with candidates that don't suit their needs.

So, what do they do? They increase requirements and use automated systems to cull the results as much as possible. They get more and more picky. This is an entirely reasonable answer to the problem.

However, now applicants need to work harder to show they're worth considering and avoid the automatic culling.

It becomes an arm race. Employers have incentive to reduce the incoming applications to keep their workload lower, while applicants obviously want to get the job so must make their application get through.

Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by chad_strategic »

ineedtosleep wrote: post #22
ssharp wrote: post #4

I'm generally confused by how much "ATS-friendly" matters, or what that even means. On one side of the coin, it logically makes sense that ATS systems would help recruiters pare down the list. I'd assume there is some auto-rejection happening, but how sensitive is it (getting rid of clearly unqualified candidates vs. rejecting marginal candidates vs. actually qualified but still rejected due to not being ATS-friendly…

As for someone looking for a new position, I can give you anecdotal evidence. A little background: I have 10+ years of professional experience. Polyglot. Experience with extremely small to medium sized companies. I re-used my previous resume, which did decently well around 2019 when I was looking for a new position, but with updated info for the newest position I had. Applied to a number positions that I was very qua…

I didn't want to use an ATS service either, but it sounds like you had a decent experience, do you mind telling me which service you used?

Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by JCharante »

> Warning

> The results returned from through the web app are currently entirely mocked / faked. This means that the results returned are not real and are just for demonstration purposes. This will be implemented with real data results in a future release.

Is this ready for use yet?

Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by JCharante »

andai wrote: post #26
slg wrote: post #18

This is not a criticism of this software or the author as they have no personal responsibility for the larger system they operate in, but sometimes I see something like this, and I just think we live in a dystopia. Have we gotten to the point that jobseekers and employers are using adversarial AIs against each other in some attempt at optimization? What are we doing here? We seem to be on the path to this stuff oozin…

A book from nearly 100 years ago recommends hiring a specialist to help you write your job application letter. What I'm seeing here is kinda the same thing except available to people with less money.

Which book is that? I'm interested in adding it to my reading list

Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by bhpm »

slg wrote: post #18

This is not a criticism of this software or the author as they have no personal responsibility for the larger system they operate in, but sometimes I see something like this, and I just think we live in a dystopia. Have we gotten to the point that jobseekers and employers are using adversarial AIs against each other in some attempt at optimization? What are we doing here? We seem to be on the path to this stuff oozin…

I don’t see how LLMs aren’t just calculators but for words. It just means that everyone needs to up their game in terms of critical reading skills.

Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by [deleted] »

slg wrote: post #18

This is not a criticism of this software or the author as they have no personal responsibility for the larger system they operate in, but sometimes I see something like this, and I just think we live in a dystopia. Have we gotten to the point that jobseekers and employers are using adversarial AIs against each other in some attempt at optimization? What are we doing here? We seem to be on the path to this stuff oozin…

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Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by digging »

willsmith72 wrote: post #25
bheadmaster wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If your ATS can't even parse someone's CV properly, that's a great way to exclude it from consideration. Why? Is there some official CV format that applicants are expected to follow, which is guaranteed to be parsable by ATS, so that un-ATS-parsable CV shows incapability of following rules?

Look at it from the other perspective. You're looking for a new senior developer, starting in the next few weeks. That means with your 4 rounds of interviews, you want to start the first round within the next week or 2. Your engineers have capacity to do the 4 rounds for ~10 applicants in that time. You receive 1000 applications. You don't have time to read every resume and start calling people in the next few days,…

While I don't blame the hiring managers or recruiters or whatever (my team is constantly struggling with not having enough time/energy to hire well), if the only goal is to reduce the volume of applications, there are better ways. In fact this is just about one of the worst ways to do so probably, since it's pretty much arbitrary.

A simple way would be to make the job listing quite specific about expectations and say "Please do not apply if you can't do/don't know X and Y at minimum. If you can/do, submit your resume with a note affirming that you can/do." Any resume that doesn't come with that note can get canned, some people will lie, but you filter out the lowest effort applications which seems to me a better proxy for quality than beating your adversarial AI in a blind game.

Re: Resume Matcher – An open source, free tool to improve your resume

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Post by Sirenos »

robomartin wrote: post #29

I am always thankful that I have not been on the job market for decades. I have hired lots of people during that time. I would like to think I did not run them through the torture chamber job-seeking seems to be today. I have many friends and acquaintances who tell me what it's like from their perspective. Sure, there are tons of job listings on sites like LinkedIn and others. And yet, for some, the experience seems…

People like you are rare. It seems like with the ever increasing scale of mechanisation, we are seeing an increasing detachment from everything that makes us human.
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