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Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Re: Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Post by cvwright »

AndroidKitKat wrote: post #67
Syonyk wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really the same thing, as far as I'm concerned. I use both Matrix and IRC, very extensively. Matrix is, for me, a replacement (or a slightly less annoying way) to handle "person to person and local group" communications. And the bridges beat having to run a bunch of other clients for Google Chat, Signal, etc. However, my goal there is to move people onto Matrix, and I've done a decent job of it so far in my…

When you move people onto Matrix, what homeserver do you have them use? I've set up a Matrix server for my immediate family and adoption rate has been good so far. I've set up both my parents, and one of my sisters and one of my brothers have signed up, one sibling is being a bit resistant since "I already use a gazillion other chat apps." But, not everyone has a me to set up and maintain a Matrix server, and I'm wea…

Now that Synapse (and Conduit!) support registration tokens, it’s a lot easier to let people you know register on your server, without opening it up to the world.

Re: Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Post by izzydata »

sverona wrote: post #73
izzydata wrote: post #57

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I am patiently waiting for Discord to be sold to some corporation such as Microsoft so we can all move on to the next big thing. I wonder what it will be. Probably not Matrix, but definitely something.

I watched your old, old SM3.9 videos as a child. I'm sitting in an Etterna Discord channel right now wishing I had the wherewithal to write a 3rd party Rust client. What serendipity. Hope you're well.

Very strange, but hello. I am alive and well. I hope you find the motivation or determination to complete your task.

Re: Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Post by izzydata »

slimsag wrote: post #64
izzydata wrote: post #57

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I am patiently waiting for Discord to be sold to some corporation such as Microsoft so we can all move on to the next big thing. I wonder what it will be. Probably not Matrix, but definitely something.

What is the next big thing after Microsoft bought GitHub, by that logic? ..or are we all in this thread just not talking about GitHub, it's a necessary evil, etc.?

I don't think it is the Microsoft part or that anything becomes evil merely by changing hands. Just that the network effect of chat clients or social media platforms in general is so finicky that changing hands might be enough to cause some splintering of people off to the next thing.

I feel like it is getting longer and longer between the next biggest social media, but there has been a lot of chat clients over the past 2 decades. I don't think many people have any company loyalty in this market. The main thing people care about is that the people they want to chat with are already there. If people start moving to something new for whatever reason then everyone else will likely follow.

Re: Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Post by patmorgan23 »

_8j50 wrote: post #24

The whole thing with freenode-> libera and now this has been a shitshow to say the least. I am glad some communities are moving to discord where things are stable and reliable. Instead of implementing proper registration process for example, libera bans ip addresses from tor and vpns unless you auth first and you have to register with an email and an ip they like. I have many criticisms of matrix/element but in this…

No.

IRC is a protocol.

Discord is a platform.

Platforms always die. Protocols can live forever.

Re: Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Post by [deleted] »

izzydata wrote: post #83
slimsag wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the next big thing after Microsoft bought GitHub, by that logic? ..or are we all in this thread just not talking about GitHub, it's a necessary evil, etc.?

I don't think it is the Microsoft part or that anything becomes evil merely by changing hands. Just that the network effect of chat clients or social media platforms in general is so finicky that changing hands might be enough to cause some splintering of people off to the next thing. I feel like it is getting longer and longer between the next biggest social media, but there has been a lot of chat clients over the p…

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Re: Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Post by dotnet00 »

tazjin wrote: post #27
mickael-kerjean wrote: post #18

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IRC is far from dead. My relatively unknown oss work has a channel on libera which is seeing ~100 message per month Also Slack made the same move a couple years ago, first trying to appeal to IRC users at the beginning and then shut it all off when they had everyone else

I wouldn't be surprised if by the time Matrix is cold as ice, IRC will still see activity. Sufficiently simple protocols have some aura of immortality to them, and Matrix is the opposite of that.

Obligatory relevant xkcd https://xkcd.com/1782/

Re: Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Post by dngray »

jmbwell wrote: post #14

This seems like an inevitable progression of the de-portaling in July: https://matrix.org/blog/2023/07/deportalling-libera-chat/ I wonder whether the July move prompted users to find other ways to connect to Libera.chat besides Matrix, killing usage of the bridge, leading us here. Thanks to those involved for the efforts while they could be sustained!

> I wonder whether the July move prompted users to find other ways to connect to Libera.chat besides Matrix, killing usage of the bridge, leading us here.

It certainly, did, I deployed Heisenbridge on my homeserver because I didn't want to go back to having two clients open.

Re: Shutting down the Matrix bridge to Libera chat

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Post by dngray »

Gigachad wrote: post #26
INTPenis wrote: post #19

Some channels on libera have been awful, a ton of [m] names, and long repetitive messages converted from matrix. I know I might be using a dying medium but I enjoy IRC the way it is.

Not a fan of IRC, but I agree. Bridges and multi protocol clients just suck. They never work flawlessly and result in a ton of annoyance for people on both sides. Use the client for the group you are in rather than some bodged together bridge.

The exception there is Heisenbridge if you've got your own homeserver, supports certfp, and sasl auth too so it's really just like using znc or anything else.
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