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X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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I'm going to operate under the assumption that you're replying in good faith and truly don't recognize the racist and anti-Semitic dog whistles all throughout the article. I'll highlight some of them for you. Btw, if you aren't familiar with dog whistles, read this first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics) Here is an anti-Semitic dog whistle that promotes the conspiracy theory that Jews control the…

Not really, no. I don't see them. I'm a little preturbed, though. When the author talked about his time working with journalists, and when he described some of them negatively, you assumed he was talking about Jews. When he talked about Stephen Gould, a widely read pop-sci academic, you zeroed in on his last name's "Jewish-ness". It just seems like you're reading a lot into what he's saying, rather than what he's say…

>When he talked about Stephen Gould, a widely read pop-sci academic, you zeroed in on his last name's "Jewish-ness".

Replying to this separately because I feel like you mischaracterized my point about Stephen Gould, and I think you're aware of that.

I did not simply zero in on his last name, as your comment says. I pointed out that the author directly links a Jewish person to having secret evil intentions and hidden political power:

>These explanations have their merit, but I think they are too kind for assuming good intentions. Throughout human history, the powerful have sought to mystify the source of their power, whether it be through religion, divine mandate or royal inheritance.

By the way, did you notice that "divine mandate" line? Why don't you take a guess on that one, too.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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To be clear though — Musk acknowledged it was worth a fraction of what he paid for it many months before he paid for it. In his view, the company's value crashed in early 2022 and that more information came to light during the acquisition process which further changed his view of the company's value.

> the company's value crashed in early 2022 This is objectively true, since every other tech company's stock prices dropped dramatically. Twitter's stock price was pinned because Musk made a commitment. > more information came to light during the acquisition process which further changed his view of the company's value This is objectively false, he misread Twitter's quarterly statements and didn't understand what mDA…

> This is objectively false, he misread Twitter's quarterly statements...

Whether it's objectively true or false is irrelevant. What I said was it changed his view of the company's value which resulted in him acknowledging that his estimation of Twitter's worth had dropped.

And while I don't disagree that Musk had a different interpretation of mDAU than Twitter did, I don't sign onto the assertion that how 2022 Twitter's view of the world is anything like objective. These numbers have been considered controversial and suspicious long before Musk's interest in Twitter.[0] Twitter had a history of dodgy numbers.[1] And there was substantial evidence that Twitter was turning a blind eye to bot traffic in their mDAU analyses.[2]

[0] https://venturebeat.com/business/twitter-is-slowly-perfectin... (From 2019)

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/28/23046170/twitter-miscount...

[2] https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/24/23320461/twitter-mdau-mud...

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/decolonization It may surprise you to know, there is more to the world than one particular conflict. Edit: to be clear I take no issue with banning calls for violence and genocide, including instances where they are attempting to be obscured by careful use of language. I take issue with claiming that the word, which has been use…

In practice, though, this turns into a motte-and-bailey, whether or not that is your intent. When someone today talks about "decolonization", what are the odds that they're talking about Palestine? What are the odds that they're talking about the Belgian Congo? This is especially true if it shows up on Twitter rather than in an obscure journal about the 20th century history of Africa. So (many) people are using "deco…

the odds people are [not] talking about something are subject to influence by censorship and political ideology. I disagree with your characterization of it as a motte-and-bailey fallacy, because the definition is based on conflating easy/not-easy to defend ideas. You haven't shown that one form of colonization is defensible and the other is not. Rather, you (or the side of that argument you are representing) are attempting to just redefine the word colonization ! I dont know if there's a fallacy name for "redefining words" but there should be.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Is there a link or study for the replicated results? I'd like to see it.

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/11/27/elons-censorial-lawsuit-...

Quite the stretch there bud, from a very biased Techdirt none-the-less.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Because it costs an epic fuckload of money and effort to perform the cleanup. Quite often the cities are in worse shape as they take no debt to perform said building/cleanups and then are left without the funds to perform the basic level of maintenance they were before the olympics.

That's interesting to hear. I thought we paid taxes for that. Or what am I paying half my salary to the government for then? Should I start paying the remaining half as well?

Most governments make their budgets publically available if you'd like to look up what your taxes are actually being used for.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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It wasn't cherry picked. It was the concluding paragraph. Additionally, nowhere in the essay does the author say that other ethnic groups are inferior to whites. In fact, it's only mentioned, tangentially, and not expanded upon, that different groups have different average IQs. As an aside: If someone reaches the correct answer for the wrong reasons, are they wrong? Personally, I'm pragmatic, and don't care how peopl…

I'm going to operate under the assumption that you're replying in good faith and truly don't recognize the racist and anti-Semitic dog whistles all throughout the article. I'll highlight some of them for you. Btw, if you aren't familiar with dog whistles, read this first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics) Here is an anti-Semitic dog whistle that promotes the conspiracy theory that Jews control the…

You are reading way too much into what I was saying. I honestly couldn't say if the people I worked with were Jewish or not - it's not something that crossed my mind. Growing up in Southern California, the only difference I noticed between myself and Jewish friends was that they celebrated Hanukkah instead of Christmas. I honesty didn't even know there was such as thing as Jewish ethnicity until I was in my 30s - I just thought it was another religion.

My essay briefly touches on the fact there are are IQ testing gaps between groups. I'm sure you know that these gaps are one of the primary explanations for Jewish overrepresentation in technical and intellectual fields. A honest appraisal of the situation instead of denial and attacking people who notice things would by hugely beneficial to everyone.

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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Don't they? Well they all did at once after the relatively tiny report. Well anyway, let's all continue speculating...

It turns out large companies don't like to see their brand near hateful things and they were probably able to verify that internally. Apple has quite a few more resources than Media Matters.

More speculation, that's why you used the word "probably".

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There are many more options out there than these few. But if you are enjoying your choices, then more power to you for using them

How about providing a top 3 of the better choices out there instead of making a generic comment? I would love to find a better choice.

Ok. What are you interested in?

Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says

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The lawsuit doesn't allege that Media Matters lied. Twitter/X (effectively) admit that the report was accurate, but that Media Matters followed users that post objectionable content and saw ads by companies that probably don't want to be associated with nazis et al, and reported on that factual outcome.

>The lawsuit doesn't allege that Media Matters lied. Incorrect. For example, from the complaint[0]: > As extensively explained above, these statements made by Defendant Media Matters were false. Though to be fair, the lawsuit never bothers to explain how they're false or offer any actual evidence to that effect. It doesn't even attempt to cite the legal elements of any of the claims that are listed, nor does it estab…

I think the key phrase in this document is:

> leaving the false impression that these pairings are anything but what they actually are: manufactured, inorganic, and extraordinarily rare.

Those last two terms mean they're admitting Media Matters' allegations are true, even if they're uncommon.

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