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X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
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Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's funny is that the line you thought you cherry-picked as a gotcha actually tells the story: > abandon the idea that the value of people lies in their attributes For anyone reading, the "attribute" that the racist author is referring to is the intelligence of non-white people, which the racist author says is inferior to whites.
It wasn't cherry picked. It was the concluding paragraph. Additionally, nowhere in the essay does the author say that other ethnic groups are inferior to whites. In fact, it's only mentioned, tangentially, and not expanded upon, that different groups have different average IQs. As an aside: If someone reaches the correct answer for the wrong reasons, are they wrong? Personally, I'm pragmatic, and don't care how peopl…
> As an aside: If someone reaches the correct answer for the wrong reasons, are they wrong? Personally, I'm pragmatic, and don't care how people reach my ideals on the proper treatment of people.
Forgot to respond to this part in my other reply so I'll just create a new one.
The entire purpose of the article is to promote anti-Semitic and racist ideas with thinly veiled dog whistles. The author isn't reaching the same conclusion as you at all - their intention is to promote hatred.
That's the whole point of a dog whistle - to promote hate and discrimination to those who would be receptive while maintaining some sliver of deniability.
It's frustrating to see that it worked so well on you in this particular case, but it's a good reminder of how effective dog whistling can be.
Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wasn't cherry picked. It was the concluding paragraph. Additionally, nowhere in the essay does the author say that other ethnic groups are inferior to whites. In fact, it's only mentioned, tangentially, and not expanded upon, that different groups have different average IQs. As an aside: If someone reaches the correct answer for the wrong reasons, are they wrong? Personally, I'm pragmatic, and don't care how peopl…
I'm going to operate under the assumption that you're replying in good faith and truly don't recognize the racist and anti-Semitic dog whistles all throughout the article. I'll highlight some of them for you. Btw, if you aren't familiar with dog whistles, read this first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics) Here is an anti-Semitic dog whistle that promotes the conspiracy theory that Jews control the…
Not really, no. I don't see them.
I'm a little preturbed, though. When the author talked about his time working with journalists, and when he described some of them negatively, you assumed he was talking about Jews.
When he talked about Stephen Gould, a widely read pop-sci academic, you zeroed in on his last name's "Jewish-ness".
It just seems like you're reading a lot into what he's saying, rather than what he's saying.
Also, FYI, on hacker news you're supposed to assume good faith.
Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My point is: why are you choosing to consume from a dumpster at all? My choices are as follows: Meta vs. X, I choose X Reddit vs. Hackernews, I choose Hackernews I couldn't say why I choose either, I guess it's a thirst for content and ultimately, there's a visceral choice that I make that results in X / Hackernews as opposed to Meta / Reddit.
There are many more options out there than these few. But if you are enjoying your choices, then more power to you for using them
How about providing a top 3 of the better choices out there instead of making a generic comment? I would love to find a better choice.
Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#205X is the best social media platform out there at this point. What are the alternatives? Meta's Facebook, Instagram? TikTok? It's just bollocks. X is where a lot of interesting people post, and where freedom of speech is the most upheld. Community notes is also a super interesting aspect. It's not X's fault someone follows nazis or whatever and don't know where the mute / block buttons are.
Good riddance to X. There's a reason why people and companies are leaving a place and an owner that amplifies neo-Nazi expression and conspiracy theories like QAnon.
I haven't seen a single neo-Nazi / QAnon expression since using Twitter. And I doubt Musk send a missive to amplify these things.
Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wasn't cherry picked. It was the concluding paragraph. Additionally, nowhere in the essay does the author say that other ethnic groups are inferior to whites. In fact, it's only mentioned, tangentially, and not expanded upon, that different groups have different average IQs. As an aside: If someone reaches the correct answer for the wrong reasons, are they wrong? Personally, I'm pragmatic, and don't care how peopl…
> As an aside: If someone reaches the correct answer for the wrong reasons, are they wrong? Personally, I'm pragmatic, and don't care how people reach my ideals on the proper treatment of people. Forgot to respond to this part in my other reply so I'll just create a new one. The entire purpose of the article is to promote anti-Semitic and racist ideas with thinly veiled dog whistles. The author isn't reaching the sam…
It didn't "work" on me. I read the article, picked up on the fact that this guy's is probably conservative, and was pleasantly surprised by the conclusion he drew to the problem of AI making intelligence obsolete.
I can form my own opinions, without people like you insinuating that I've been manipulated.
Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#207X is the best social media platform out there at this point. What are the alternatives? Meta's Facebook, Instagram? TikTok? It's just bollocks. X is where a lot of interesting people post, and where freedom of speech is the most upheld. Community notes is also a super interesting aspect. It's not X's fault someone follows nazis or whatever and don't know where the mute / block buttons are.
> What are the alternatives? It's not hard to think of other alternatives...? KakaoTalk, LINE, WeChat / 小红书? These are all used where tons of interesting people post, and freedom of speech isn't really upheld on X (formerly Twitter) anyway.
KakaoTalk seems like a messaging service; LINE seems like a messaging service; WeChat seems like a messaging service.
Could you link me to 2 - 3 interesting accounts on these platforms so that I can browse their thoughts?
Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm going to operate under the assumption that you're replying in good faith and truly don't recognize the racist and anti-Semitic dog whistles all throughout the article. I'll highlight some of them for you. Btw, if you aren't familiar with dog whistles, read this first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics) Here is an anti-Semitic dog whistle that promotes the conspiracy theory that Jews control the…
Not really, no. I don't see them. I'm a little preturbed, though. When the author talked about his time working with journalists, and when he described some of them negatively, you assumed he was talking about Jews. When he talked about Stephen Gould, a widely read pop-sci academic, you zeroed in on his last name's "Jewish-ness". It just seems like you're reading a lot into what he's saying, rather than what he's say…
The account that posted the article also posted an explicitly anti-Semitic comment that promotes the conspiracy theory that Jews are secretly in control of the media[0]:
>Uh, yes. Elon does not follow the program, and doesn't have the kind of pull Gates has, even though he's richer. Gates is the poster child for state initiatives. Elon is out on his own agenda.
Edit: Using Gates as an example. Check Media Matters' donors and get back to me. (Spoiler alert, tons of huge Jewish NGOs. Who did Elon piss off by correctly claiming had outsized influence, again?)
Does knowing that the author explicitly promotes anti-Semitism change your opinion? I'm also curious if this information changes your opinion that I'm reading too much into the article.
Edit: I linked the wrong one, there were two anti-Semites in the same thread. Here is the correct comment that was removed for violating HN policies:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38438884#38439602
Here is what it said (I had it open in another window before it was removed):
>I wish people were a little more skeptical about the negative claims about Twitter/X in the press the last few days, knowing that Elon Musk has pissed off some very powerful people with his recent comments.
Different person, same anti-Semitism, same conspiracy theories being promoted.
Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't agree. It's really hard to tailor your feed to be stuff you want to read and not garbage you have no interest in.
I started using X just recently. My feed is entirely related to the people I follow and topics I'm interested in. I had a bit of garbage after I joined, but "show less like this" solved it very quickly. The only "garbage" is ads, but they're topical and annoyingly effective at catching my attention. The people I follow have a very high signal to noise ratio, so maybe that helps. What do you see?
Everything from incessant discussion of tempests in a teacup to spam, generic financial influencer garbage, political content I find distasteful... hard to sort the wheat from the chaff and they've only become more aggressive about showing you people you don't follow.
Re: X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As an aside: If someone reaches the correct answer for the wrong reasons, are they wrong? Personally, I'm pragmatic, and don't care how people reach my ideals on the proper treatment of people. Forgot to respond to this part in my other reply so I'll just create a new one. The entire purpose of the article is to promote anti-Semitic and racist ideas with thinly veiled dog whistles. The author isn't reaching the sam…
It didn't "work" on me. I read the article, picked up on the fact that this guy's is probably conservative, and was pleasantly surprised by the conclusion he drew to the problem of AI making intelligence obsolete. I can form my own opinions, without people like you insinuating that I've been manipulated.
What do you mean it didn't work on you? You're defending an article written by someone who promotes indisputably anti-Semitic conspiracy theories[0].