Usenet became a sewer, too. Yet Google believed it needed to acquire DejaNews.
"Social media" was a lame attempt to centralise and commercialise forums through surveillance and "advertising services".
Bring back the minitel.
X Has Become a 'Global Sewer,' Mayor of Paris Says
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#162X is the best social media platform out there at this point. What are the alternatives? Meta's Facebook, Instagram? TikTok? It's just bollocks. X is where a lot of interesting people post, and where freedom of speech is the most upheld. Community notes is also a super interesting aspect. It's not X's fault someone follows nazis or whatever and don't know where the mute / block buttons are.
> What are the alternatives?
It's not hard to think of other alternatives...? KakaoTalk, LINE, WeChat / 小红书? These are all used where tons of interesting people post, and freedom of speech isn't really upheld on X (formerly Twitter) anyway.
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#163Usenet became a sewer, too. Yet Google believed it needed to acquire DejaNews. "Social media" was a lame attempt to centralise and commercialise forums through surveillance and "advertising services". Bring back the minitel.
Based on the proliferation of smaller Discords for example, I think people are re-learning why being in a public space with all other humans is not desirable. I may want access to observe that public space, but from a distance... with friends I respect and like.
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
The lawsuit doesn’t contend that the reporting is inaccurate, the complaint hinges on it being correct. Twitter is suing under the “who cares” and “shut up” doctrine.
>The lawsuit doesn’t contend that the reporting is inaccurate, the complaint hinges on it being correct. This seems contradictory. You're saying that the lawsuit doesn't say the report is inaccurate, but rather that it's not correct? Is your comment based on a distinction between the words accurate/inaccurate and correct/incorrect? >Twitter is suing under the “who cares” and “shut up” doctrine. You're saying that the…
The lawsuit doesn't allege that Media Matters lied. Twitter/X (effectively) admit that the report was accurate, but that Media Matters followed users that post objectionable content and saw ads by companies that probably don't want to be associated with nazis et al, and reported on that factual outcome.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
The lawsuit doesn’t contend that the reporting is inaccurate, the complaint hinges on it being correct. Twitter is suing under the “who cares” and “shut up” doctrine.
>The lawsuit doesn’t contend that the reporting is inaccurate, the complaint hinges on it being correct. This seems contradictory. You're saying that the lawsuit doesn't say the report is inaccurate, but rather that it's not correct? Is your comment based on a distinction between the words accurate/inaccurate and correct/incorrect? >Twitter is suing under the “who cares” and “shut up” doctrine. You're saying that the…
> You're saying that the lawsuit is meritorious, while conceding that there is no legal basis for the lawsuit? Am I missing something?
No. Twitter is suing under the “who cares”, “shut up” and “no u” doctrine, which you can do in courts that do not have anti-SLAPP rules in place.
>The company filed its lawsuit in Texas, which is neither its nor Media Matters’ primary place of business. As legal blogger Ken White noted, a Texas filing protects X from claims that it filed a strategic lawsuit against public participation (or SLAPP), something it might face in its home base of California.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/20/23970274/x-elon-musk-med...
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The lawsuit doesn’t contend that the reporting is inaccurate, the complaint hinges on it being correct. This seems contradictory. You're saying that the lawsuit doesn't say the report is inaccurate, but rather that it's not correct? Is your comment based on a distinction between the words accurate/inaccurate and correct/incorrect? >Twitter is suing under the “who cares” and “shut up” doctrine. You're saying that the…
The lawsuit doesn't allege that Media Matters lied. Twitter/X (effectively) admit that the report was accurate, but that Media Matters followed users that post objectionable content and saw ads by companies that probably don't want to be associated with nazis et al, and reported on that factual outcome.
>The lawsuit doesn't allege that Media Matters lied.
Incorrect. For example, from the complaint[0]:
> As extensively explained above, these statements made by Defendant Media Matters were false.
Though to be fair, the lawsuit never bothers to explain how they're false or offer any actual evidence to that effect. It doesn't even attempt to cite the legal elements of any of the claims that are listed, nor does it establish any facts that one could even tangentially connect to the claims asserted.
I have a law degree (though I don't currently practice law). I doubt this lawsuit will survive a motion for summary judgment. I would even go so far as to expect that Elon/Twitter will probably be paying for Media Matters' attorney's fees for the utterly frivolous nature of the complaint.
[0] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.38...
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The lawsuit doesn’t contend that the reporting is inaccurate, the complaint hinges on it being correct. This seems contradictory. You're saying that the lawsuit doesn't say the report is inaccurate, but rather that it's not correct? Is your comment based on a distinction between the words accurate/inaccurate and correct/incorrect? >Twitter is suing under the “who cares” and “shut up” doctrine. You're saying that the…
> You're saying that the lawsuit is meritorious, while conceding that there is no legal basis for the lawsuit? Am I missing something? No. Twitter is suing under the “who cares”, “shut up” and “no u” doctrine, which you can do in courts that do not have anti-SLAPP rules in place. >The company filed its lawsuit in Texas, which is neither its nor Media Matters’ primary place of business. As legal blogger Ken White note…
> which you can do in courts that do not have anti-SLAPP rules in place.
No, this is incorrect. I believe you're unintentionally conflating two things. Not having an anti-SLAPP law just means that Media Matters won't have the luxury of quickly striking the complaint before having to respond to it.
It does not mean that vexatious litigants are free to file a lawsuit without making actual legal claims recognized by the courts.
Media Matters can (and will) still file a motion for summary judgment to dismiss the complaint, and will almost certainly prevail based on the clear deficiency of the complaint which doesn't even bother to cite the legal elements of the three claims it lists.
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's compatible with freedom of speech. He's not censoring it, but he can show damages from misleading speech.
> That's compatible with freedom of speech. He's not censoring it I would rather have my account "censored" then being forced to spends tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers.
Well, you don't have to deal with either, since you don't have the ear of the elites and can't cause damages by talking shit.
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's compatible with freedom of speech. He's not censoring it I would rather have my account "censored" then being forced to spends tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers.
Well, you don't have to deal with either, since you don't have the ear of the elites and can't cause damages by talking shit.
You think media matters has the ear of the elites and not the multi billionaire with direct ties to the US Government? That is an interesting take.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Paul was later unbanned. My narrative was true.
This did happen last year. I’m not sure how long it lasted (probably days rather than months) but there was an HN thread about pg's reaction.