Phrack Issue #68
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Re: Phrack Issue #68
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You might be right that there aren't many "hackers" on HN, but a lot of it has to do with how you define the term. As for not knowing eclectic but important bits of history like "2600" or even who "Lawnchair Larry" was, experience takes time, and knowledge takes effort. A good example is that most people don't know all of the available terminal commands available on a UNIX(-ish including MacOS/iOS/Android) system, le…
> You might be right that there aren't many "hackers" on HN, but a lot of it has to do with how you define the term. Exactly. Here on HN the confusion is worsened because the definition of "hacker" has shifted from ~"security expert" to ~"technical enterpreuner". Nothing wrong in redefining terms but we shouldn't be surprised if outside here hacker has another meaning.
Re: Phrack Issue #68
#43The 'Lines In The Sand' piece reads like someone who is enamored with being a 'bad boy' and that breaking the law is just really cool and if you want to be a cool black hat hacker you should basically try to cause as much mayhem as possible, fuck anyone else (but also be in complete solidarity with the black hat brethren who should totally go to jail for you without question). Apparently you can't even hack for a liv…
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I'm surprised how the younger generation does not seems to know all these things. It's not like if they weren't well-known. Sometimes I hear "what's 2600?" " why is it called 2600?" from "security professionals". Woot.
I doubt it is related to being the younger generation. I think it is more to do with Hacker News not having many "hackers" ;)
Re: Phrack Issue #68
#45The 'Lines In The Sand' piece reads like someone who is enamored with being a 'bad boy' and that breaking the law is just really cool and if you want to be a cool black hat hacker you should basically try to cause as much mayhem as possible, fuck anyone else (but also be in complete solidarity with the black hat brethren who should totally go to jail for you without question). Apparently you can't even hack for a liv…
Re: Phrack Issue #68
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#47PHUCK YEAH. You wanna talk about news for hackers, and not this Bay Area, VC-manipulated, water-downed, same-ol' bullshit? Phrack is real talk. If you want to travel outside of California and actually call yourself a hacker, you're gonna need to read this and as much of the archive as you can. Phrack 0wnz.
Re: Phrack Issue #68
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I doubt it is related to being the younger generation. I think it is more to do with Hacker News not having many "hackers" ;)
Ironically true. I have some friends who are afraid of visiting the site on their work machines because their co-workers are "innocent" enough to think hackernews might be actually about "classic" hacking.
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I think the landscape has changed a lot since then. Back then computer security had more of an underground feel it, where free and open discussion about it was viewed as being discouraged by 'the authorities'. The 'underground' pretty much existed for this reason. Now the information out there is so widely available. Given enough time and effort, you can become pretty well-versed based on what's available. Still, eve…
I think we shouldn't sleep on our laurels. Free exchange of information, security wise, is certainly already a thing of the past. That's not good. Freedom of information (as I prefer to call it), in general, is more than ever at risk. In France, they're outlawing surfing on websites that can be called "terrorist". That include documenting yourself on "bad" countries' culture (bad as in your govt does not like them),…
And I really don't see how free exchange is a thing of the past when even on HN there are posts and discussions about security. Sure, there are people working against the free exchange of information, but cherry-picking examples to suggest there has been a total reversal or that nothing has been accomplished is neither realistic nor fair.
Re: Phrack Issue #68
#50The 'Lines In The Sand' piece reads like someone who is enamored with being a 'bad boy' and that breaking the law is just really cool and if you want to be a cool black hat hacker you should basically try to cause as much mayhem as possible, fuck anyone else (but also be in complete solidarity with the black hat brethren who should totally go to jail for you without question). Apparently you can't even hack for a liv…
As a student taking a CS degree for fun, I think the 'Happy Hacking' article is fairly insightful. Not of the best quality, perhaps, but insightful none the less.