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Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by yieldcrv » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:21 PM UTC

r3trohack3r wrote: post #104

Anecdotal, but with Google Photos, I've observed data loss to the point where I no longer trust the service with anything valuable. Photos I know I've taken are missing. There are periods of time when I walked around a city 10+ years ago taking a large volume of photos, like when I first moved to Seattle. Going back to that window of time in Google Photos, I only have a handful of photos from that walk. There are als…

I have a weird gap on icloud, and the photos are on google photos thankfully, and other periods it’s opposite

they are both supposed to have all

dangerous

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by manmal » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:25 PM UTC

I’ve been self hosting images with https://github.com/immich-app/immich and I‘m really happy. Decent mobile apps, even has good face recognition and H/W accelerated video transcoding. Can be served either with Tailscale or, as I did, with a reverse proxy on a cheap Hetzner box.

Good backups are a must obviously, I have a backup server on a separate VLAN that syncs ZFS snapshots daily, and daily incremental encrypted backups to Google Drive w/ Duplicati. I‘ll have to reconsider Gdrive now obviously.

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by fareesh » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:26 PM UTC

SamBam wrote: post #137

fareesh wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$5/yr + hosting, which is way more than $5 unless you have a terabyte going unused in a box somewhere

I assume that "self-hosted" meant precisely that they own the box. A hard drive is under $10/terabyte.

Ah I assumed it was self-hosted but in the cloud somewhere

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by Waterluvian » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:29 PM UTC

If I wanted to indefinitely back up every image my wife's and my phones take, without me having to think about anything other than an annual bill, what services would people suggest? Currently Google does this perfectly for us... except for the part that maybe it's not actually doing that after all, and the fact that it's Google and they're seemingly less competent by the hour.

Apple is the only alternative I'm aware of.

Edit: Just to be very very very very clear. I don't want to have to do ANYTHING but pay a bill.

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by darkwater » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:31 PM UTC

manmal wrote: post #172

I’ve been self hosting images with https://github.com/immich-app/immich and I‘m really happy. Decent mobile apps, even has good face recognition and H/W accelerated video transcoding. Can be served either with Tailscale or, as I did, with a reverse proxy on a cheap Hetzner box. Good backups are a must obviously, I have a backup server on a separate VLAN that syncs ZFS snapshots daily, and daily incremental encrypted…

Dies It hace any native app? The default mobile web UI seems a bit too overcrowded by other elements rather than pictures (at least on Firefox/Android). I'm using Photoprism currently and looking for some alternative that has better face detection system and an integrated "X years ago" automatic slideshow thing (I don't care about the "splish splash", "out in the wild", "magic hour" compilations that GPhoto automatically does, just the basic X years ago thing, maybe when picture has tagged people)

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by InCityDreams » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:32 PM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #174

If I wanted to indefinitely back up every image my wife's and my phones take, without me having to think about anything other than an annual bill, what services would people suggest? Currently Google does this perfectly for us... except for the part that maybe it's not actually doing that after all, and the fact that it's Google and they're seemingly less competent by the hour. Apple is the only alternative I'm aware…

An ssd big enough and syncthing?

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by tyfon » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:32 PM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #135

r3trohack3r wrote: post #104

Anecdotal, but with Google Photos, I've observed data loss to the point where I no longer trust the service with anything valuable. Photos I know I've taken are missing. There are periods of time when I walked around a city 10+ years ago taking a large volume of photos, like when I first moved to Seattle. Going back to that window of time in Google Photos, I only have a handful of photos from that walk. There are als…

The Google photos user this is really fucked up. I primarily use Google photos to manage my kids pictures as well what did you move to?

Personally I have turned off google photos and had turned off apple photos when I had an iphone for a couple of years.

Instead I use sync.com (yes, UI is horrible and it's slow, but it works) and my synology NAS that is mirroring to a synology NAS at my fathers house (we mirror each others photos).

Basic rule of thumb, if it's free they don't care.

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by BorisMelnik » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:32 PM UTC

about 5 years ago I just stopped trusting the Cloud for my personal memories, it is just too valuable to lose those photos and I do not trust these companies. Running a home server is easy and cheap. 18Tb drives now are inexpensive. And every few times a year I'll make a full copy and stash it at my moms house and safety deposit box.

edit - love foldersync pro for my Android. does SFTP/SMB/webDAV and all major cloud services over wifi or 5g.

every night it transfers everything off my phone to my server which is also on parity

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by partiallypro » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:36 PM UTC

This is why I always have my device backup to both GDrive and OneDrive.

Re: Google Drive misplaces months' worth of customer data

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Post by Waterluvian » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 5:36 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #62

How does people even notice that their data has gone missing? I can barely find my own documents in the train wreck that is the Google Drive UI. Any document written by anyone else in the organization can generally be considered lost unless you have a direct link sitting in an email or bookmark.

For non-images I suffer the same poblem. But for images I have yet to find a service that lets me search the heap better than Google Photos. It was amazing and was pre-AI craze. "My driveway in the summer." " and on a dock" etc. I don't have to catalogue anything anymore. Apple has the same concept but it never works right.