If you ever found his daughter Ivana attractive well then she came from ...
You mix an average male with an attractive model and something decent may come out. Plus she could afford surgeries.
Outside of ones feelings for Trump ...Ivana holds the standard of beauty. Those who loathe him prior to their dislike of him ..those ppl and the majority of them thought the same about her looks. That she is natural beauty even prior to any plastic surgery.
Attractiveness runs in Trumps family. He afterall was the Paris Hilton / Kardashians of the 80s and early 90s. Those types of socialites have beauty and wealth and society loves to follow them because of it.
> physical attractiveness, assessed when individuals are around 15 years old This is weird for a bunch of reasons, the most objective being that appearance changes a lot around that age range. Seems like an odd experimental choice.
It's only weird if you are conflating physical beauty and sexual attractiveness. And symmetry tends to be a pretty universal physical indicator of beauty and doesn't change much from 15 onward.
Physical beauty is often an attractor of lust, but someone with no sexual hormones or sexual desire could still assess or another's beauty without a sexual component, an asexual person could, someone not sexually attracted to a given gender could still assess physical attractiveness of someone of that gender (a straight woman assessing a girl's beauty), etc.
One of the nice things about working in tech, as opposed to something like sales or marketing, is its possible to work surrounded by people who behave in a more intelligent and less shallow way, and appreciate others for who they actually are as a person, and appreciate their technical contribution, while looks doesn't really feature. Probably not every tech job, but a lot. Its refreshing working with a bunch of nerds who just don't judge people on how they look, and frankly have a lot more interesting things to think about. This study would seem to me to just reinforce what we all already know -that in certain fields/professions, looks are important for making money. Seems to me like fields to avoid working in!
>There's a saying (which could be specific to my country) about men approaching women. If you're handsome it's called flirting, if you're ugly it's sexual harassment. There's a famous comic meme about your distinction that's regularly reposted on the internet: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/663/485/1f8... But many women have commented that they find the "attractive" guy's compliments also unwanted.
To be completely frank, this applies to both sexes. As a man it feels nice to be complimented by attractive women but when I face the same attention from women I don't consider attractive and just prefer to have normal work relations with, I feel very awkward. I don't want to sound rude and hurt them, but sometimes when you don't react they take it as an approval to go further. But most of the time just dry "thank yo…
If the woman is attractive, it is different? My commercial is a very attractive female (and I mean, very), she flirted with me (my bad really, I sent weird signals, we didn't knew each other enough for the level of friendlyness I showed, it's an issue in my family, my father and my sister have the same), I put a "i'm moving in with my girlfriend" somewhere later in the discussion (it wasn't exactly true), bam, clarified, but I felt really awkward doing it and finding a way to close that door. I think that if you don't see the other as a potential mate, it's always awkward.
There's a saying (which could be specific to my country) about men approaching women. If you're handsome it's called flirting, if you're ugly it's sexual harassment. Joking aside, I do notice that successful men (again, maybe specific to my country) tend to be attractive and they usually have an attractive and smart partner. Successful but not attractive men can still have either attractive or smart partner (or both,…
I got SO many downvotes on Reddit for suggesting that.
Maybe there is more women and socially competent humans in general on reddit?
Being someone who was both conventionally unattractive and conventionally attractive (I had a digestive disorder for years that made me terrifyingly skinny and sickly looking), I can say that the difference is astronomical. Once I figured out what was wrong with me, fixed my diet and got in shape, the way people treated me in general shifted dramatically towards positive. Rather than starting from a unreceptive low w…
I just open these threads to see if the top comment is “Attractive person here, can confirm”.
The comment is more "formerly unattractive person who is now attractive here, can confirm." People who have never been unattractive can't confirm, because they live in a bubble and just think that's how everyone is treated. You have to have the other perspective to really understand it.
This relates to a criticism I have for woke and SJW people: Do they follow the same tendency? Most SJW people I know tend to be critical of the idea of a beauty standard at all, which is an interesting initiative if they can actually pull it off. And I do agree that it would be nice to stop being biased towards conventionally attractive people. Then, with that logic, we should be seeing "woke couples" who don't follo…
As a “woke SJW” I don’t think we’re on the same page for what it means to be “critical of the idea of a beauty standard”.
For example, to me being critical of a beauty standard is rejecting the following statement:
“All else equal, a person with double eyelids is more attractive than a person with single eyelids”
Widespread acceptance of the above statement culturally is an example of a beauty standard, and it’s the reason why eyelid surgery is the third most common cosmetic surgery in the world.
Rejecting this beauty standard does not mean I need to be attracted to every person with a mono eyelid nor have a partner with a mono eyelid.
There's a saying (which could be specific to my country) about men approaching women. If you're handsome it's called flirting, if you're ugly it's sexual harassment. Joking aside, I do notice that successful men (again, maybe specific to my country) tend to be attractive and they usually have an attractive and smart partner. Successful but not attractive men can still have either attractive or smart partner (or both,…
How did that work with Donnie and Ivana :/ ?
Trump was conventionally attractive by the standards of 1977: https://cmg-cmg-tv-10020-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/.... He was 6’2”, had a straight, narrow nose, clear skin, and straight white teeth. His face was chubby but back then it was boyish and youthful. If you look at old pictures, he and Ivana weren’t an obviously mismatched couple.
This has gotta be one of my favorite parts of HN, it's an odd glimpse into how men view the world. You've got it backwards. In both cases what makes it harassment is continuing to push when it's unwanted. Why you seem to see a difference in results based on attractiveness is because your average guy can't take a hint no matter how attractive they are. So "success" becomes literally stochastic because guys never back…
I don't think so. There is a growing movement on places like Instagram and Tiktok, currently it's mostly played as a joke but there are woman complaining about how they said to a guy "No" and he backed off instead of trying again. Many women want to play hard to get and want a guy to try multiple times. The problem is if an attractive guy does it then he "is confident and really wants her", but if unattractive guy do…
As a general rule, don't seek dating advice from (probably scripted) Tiktok videos. Really, the less you try and learn about the human condition from sources like that, the better.
Can second this. Over the last few years I fixed some hormonal, dietary, and stress issues which resulted in much clearer skin, better hair, and more toned/muscular body; taking me from average to conventionally attractive based on commentary from friends/family. There is a clear boost in first impressions generally being much more positive, my ideas being regarded more highly, and coworkers/leaders wanting to promot…
Yeah that's a whole other dimension to it. The positive feedback loop it creates. With being unattractive, there is a metaphorical "gut punch" of sorts that you always get when meeting people. Often even from people you know. Imagine just before going on stage to give a presentation, getting yourself psyched up, and someone tells you "Your voice sounds kind of weird". It just entirely kicks you off kilter and it come…
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