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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by ta1243 » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:05 AM UTC

water-your-self wrote: post #282

j1elo wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advertising it. Because it works . Advertising works. That's the bane of the conflict of interest between companies and users of Ad blockers. We (technical users) cannot complain that companies should not use and abuse Ads, because at the same time we (humanity as a collective) constantly show once and again that Ads do work…

Ads are a theft from word of mouth. Advertising spend should be regulated.

Adverts are a theft of time and attention, they are manipulative brainwashing by companies with more resources than the majority of countries.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by fazlulkarimweb » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:05 AM UTC

Use Brave instead!

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by mhrmsn » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:05 AM UTC

One of the best things about switching to Firefox was that it has the option to "Close tabs to the Left". I never understood why you can't do that natively in Chrome.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by dingi » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:06 AM UTC

I would consider Firefox if Mozilla wasn't a total sucker for Google's money. They'll get onboard with anything google does sooner or later. As it stands now, I don't see much difference between aligning with either of them.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by agumonkey » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:06 AM UTC

The only thing I miss from chrome is the easy tab grouping.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by executesorder66 » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:07 AM UTC

j1elo wrote: post #259

masfoobar wrote: post #148

I have been a happy Firefox user for 15 years... maybe more. I have seen people use and complain Internet Explorer in my younger days, from version 6 to 7, etc. Even though I mention Firefox to them, they stay with IE. What amazes me is how quick they transitioned to Google Chrome when it released. This was around 2009. It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advert…

> It amazes me how quick people jump to something especially when it has a big company behind advertising it. Because it works . Advertising works. That's the bane of the conflict of interest between companies and users of Ad blockers. We (technical users) cannot complain that companies should not use and abuse Ads, because at the same time we (humanity as a collective) constantly show once and again that Ads do work…

> We (technical users) cannot complain that companies should not use and abuse Ads, because at the same time we (humanity as a collective) constantly show once and again that Ads do work excellently for their intended purpose.

Just because something works, doesn't mean you should do it. Using a gun or knife to threaten someone with death if they don't hand over their wallet works. Do you think people should complain/do something about it, or should they just let muggers get away with it "because it works"?

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by alkonaut » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:07 AM UTC

The problem with FF I find is being a bit slower on the uptake of new features. WebGPU being the current best example. It's annoying to have to swap to Edge for specific pages.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by jorams » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:08 AM UTC

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #33

My problem with Firefox is that a new Firefox windows can only be launched from the same environment (or only from a child process?) from which the first window has been started. Even the same user who started FF cannot launch a new window from a new shell. That constantly interferes with my workflow. Example: Say firefox has been started from the Destop already and now I want to start a new Firefox window from a roo…

To make this work you need to set the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR environment variable to the same value it has in the environment Firefox is running in. For example:

    sudo -u desktopuser XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000 firefox --new-window

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by pasc1878 » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:08 AM UTC

SuchAnonMuchWow wrote: post #123

rrreese wrote: post #64

I tried moving to Firefox a year ago but found that the lack of Tab Groups really killed me. There are several extensions that try to emulate this behaviour, but I didn't find that they worked particularly well. And then there are the security concerns. I guess when Chrome break uBlock Origin next year I'll give Edge a go, or one of the various chromium builds

Just in case you're open to something new: Tree Style Tabs is my goto extension to managing tabs on firefox You manage your tabs vertically in a sidebar, organized as a tree. Every new tab is opened as a leaf from the tab that you came from, grouping your tabs by branches following your navigation on the web. This make managing groups of tabs by topics really natural.

Tree style tabs is not new. It predates containers and might even predate chrome

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by fimdomeio » Mon, Nov 27, 2023, 10:10 AM UTC

pitdicker wrote: post #222

ggjkvcxddd wrote: post #165

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>I just don't understand why people would use Chrome. Really? That seems hard to believe. I stuck with FF until around 2016 or so before being compelled to switch. The performance was just very clearly worse than Chrome's at the time. Not sure what the state of things is now. This is HN, so another huge reason to use Chrome is for the devtools, which I've always had a very good experience with and know pretty well. I…

There was a lot of talk about Firefox having poor performance, but I have never experienced any of it. For daily use Firefox has always been one of the more responsive applications on my PC. If you experienced poor performance the common explanation at the time was that you either had a profile folder that had accumulated all sorts of stuff that somehow caused a slowdown, or had some unfortunate extensions installed.

I experienced poor perfonmance until what, maybe 2013? I really don’t understand if people really experience poor performance of if that’s just something people say about firefox.