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Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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The hunt for my stalker continues yet has been unsuccessful as of now. The FBI having bigger fish to fry. The police say that he is “good at what he does.” Can people like this be stopped if they cannot be found? http://experimenthaywire.net/is-there-a-solution-to-cybersta...

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Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Since HN is about entrepreneurship, I think this article raises good questions, such as, how do you deal when someone makes emotionally-loaded claims against your company in the early hours of a Saturday, including multiple submissions to Reddit using a sockpuppet account?

Call an emergency meeting with the head of your marketing dept. and start hashing out a blog post, I would assume.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Please read the following in an exasperated tone of voice, because that's what I feel here. The problem is the very public trashing of kickstarter on her blog, combined with the multitude of people who have had run-ins with Rachael over the past few years calling her "crazy" etc. Allegedly the FBI are uninterested in prosecuting the cyber stalker. However since coming across this today I've seen nothing that indicate…

Kickstarter removed her because of the spamming, which seems to be an indication that the stalker exists. Of course she might have just been talking to herself, but having never heard about her before, I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

And you've heard about her now. Hmm. Whose interest does that server? Someone who wants to stop her life, or someone who wants to promote and sell tickets to her "transhuman" art projects

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Oh man, not this girl again. Let's just say she is known for being at the center of drama wherever she goes. She has a very long history of libel and public feuds related to her "music project." In one of many incidents, her and her mother sent DMCA takedown requests to LiveJournal based on negative information being posted by another user (completely unrelated to copyright). Please do not give her attention. At leas…

Electric Hellfire Club / Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations posted May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM by xFiruath. (1 Comment) Wilhelm Curse of The Electric Hellfire Club has checked in with the following statement about allegations that Terrofakt band mate Ben DeWalt is involved with Nazism: "For any of the fans of the EHC who are into rhythmic noise and hard industrial; some of you may have heard the escalating rumor th…

Google "Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations". You'll notice it comes up repeatedly - someone posts this exact message wherever they see her pseudonyms. That's pretty stalky.

I'm reasonably sure I wouldn't ever want to deal with her [1], but someone is very keen on badmouthing her at every possible opportunity.

[1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3840747 - makes me think she is one of those 'trouble follows me everywhere' people.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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While I don't condone the attitude in the OP, providing background on the "victim" in this case is appropriate. She has offered nothing to substantiate her claims. As of yet, we know nothing, and calling her a "victim" is ignoring facts.

Either she is a victim or she made up the entire story along with emails. It's a waste of time to discus the latter; if it's made up kickstarter will say so. But I doubt her making up a story so easily disproved. Your other posts about italic text honestly come across to me as a strawman.

> Either she is a victim or she made up the entire story along with emails.

There are other possibilities as well. It's not so black and white.

> Your other posts about italic text honestly come across to me as a strawman.

Oh, evidence was presented? You know, using the word strawman doesn't mean it is, nor does it change what has, or has not, been presented. You can dismiss my arguments and believe what you want, however. At least I'm not out to take advantage of your gullibility.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Something more than italicized text. Yes, screenshots of the emails, with headers would be better. Something more than a mere rant. I'm not suggesting that anything displayed would hold up in court, but all anyone here seems to care about is italicized text. Here, let me demonstrate. amirmc, The post on my website is a lie. Truly, Rachel There. Case closed. > What kind of 'proof' would satisfy you? What kind of proof…

> What kind of proof would satisfy you? Italicized text? A blog post? I try not to take any of these things as 'proof'. Also you say that "nothing has been offered up" which isn't true. Someone wrote a post and copy/pasted emails into it. Sure, you can question the veracity of the post but it isn't really fair to say that nothing was offered. It's just that what was offered doesn't seem sufficient to you (which is fi…

> Why aren't both of those ok?

That's a fair question. I'll explain, but first, you should explain this:

Jason,

Sorry about my comment. You are absolutely right. I cannot admit to being wrong in public, however. I'm, in fact, the poster of the original blog post, and it is all made up.

Sincerely,

amirmc

Now you are required to answer this accusation. And everyone attacking KickStarter and assuming guilt should not attack you for making up the post.

I'm sure you understand exactly what I mean, and what I'm saying (and in case someone else misses the point, the above email is not in fact an email).

When I say nothing has been offered up, I mean beyond the blog post (obviously). My issue with this is it places the burden on KickStarter to prove their innocence. And this, I firmly believe, is wrong.

> Your issue isn't really with the post but how folks here seem to be reacting to it.

Exactly. =)

> I get that, but isn't it always going to be the case with David/Goliath-type stories?

Doesn't make it right. I don't believe that the little guy is always in the right. And I'd like to think we strive to rise above this. Tis better to be calm and rational about situations like this then break out the pitchforks and torches.

Yes, some people want to believe everything they read on the internet. That doesn't make it right.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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> I'm not certain that Hacker News really needs your defense. You're wrong. It does . People need to be told, flat out, the this isn't a board that wants nor appreciates mob-mentality. It promotes reason and rationality. As a long* time member of HN, threads like this are a blight. Not because of the parties involved, but because we are doing things we abhor in others. > Either way, Daniella needs to respond to this…

I see no problem with expecting people to say "nope." to credible-seeming trolls. It takes mere seconds and provides strong evidence to discredit the troll in the future. And you calling it a marketing stunt is a very different situation because you have a clear motivation of rhetorical device to fake an email and you're not staking your reputation on it. Finally, I don't think anyone here is suggesting taking action…

> And you calling it a marketing stunt is a very different situation because you have a clear motivation of rhetorical device to fake an email and you're not staking your reputation on it.

Whoa. I never said that. I never suggested it, and suggesting I said that is completely dishonest and reprehensible*.

I'm going to assume you misread what I've written. I've said that there are many possibilities that could explain these actions, besides the truth, one of those being a publicity stunt. That, however, is no where near an accusation, merely speculation, and does not represent my believe in any way.

Edit: This sounds like I'm calling you dishonest and reprehensible. That's not accurate. That would be if you were doing it on purpose. I just believe you misread what I wrote. Just being clear.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Either she is a victim or she made up the entire story along with emails. It's a waste of time to discus the latter; if it's made up kickstarter will say so. But I doubt her making up a story so easily disproved. Your other posts about italic text honestly come across to me as a strawman.

> Either she is a victim or she made up the entire story along with emails. There are other possibilities as well. It's not so black and white. > Your other posts about italic text honestly come across to me as a strawman. Oh, evidence was presented? You know, using the word strawman doesn't mean it is, nor does it change what has, or has not, been presented. You can dismiss my arguments and believe what you want, ho…

I'm sorry for making it sound like I think the situation is black and white. What I meant was was that the text of the email is a pretty clear bad policy.

Anyway, on to the main point. You're using an example of how easy it is to throw out words and ignoring the fact that if this blog post is a lie it has serious ramifications on her integrity. So I feel justified calling it a strawman. This isn't quoting a 4chan thread as a resource, this is somebody making a plea to the world under their real name. There is reason to believe the quotes are accurate, even though I'm sure there's bias in the telling.

And I'm not judging kickstarter until I hear what their response is. Even if all they say is 'that email is fake' then I won't think badly of them. I'm not being taken advantage of, because I'm not trusting a lone rant.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Electric Hellfire Club / Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations posted May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM by xFiruath. (1 Comment) Wilhelm Curse of The Electric Hellfire Club has checked in with the following statement about allegations that Terrofakt band mate Ben DeWalt is involved with Nazism: "For any of the fans of the EHC who are into rhythmic noise and hard industrial; some of you may have heard the escalating rumor th…

Google "Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations". You'll notice it comes up repeatedly - someone posts this exact message wherever they see her pseudonyms. That's pretty stalky. I'm reasonably sure I wouldn't ever want to deal with her [1], but someone is very keen on badmouthing her at every possible opportunity. [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3840747 - makes me think she is one of those 'trouble follows me…

warning people about her libel and her crimes is _not_ stalking. it is _journalism_ . facts are not 'badmouthing', dude. She is a well known grifter, thief and Unholy Volcano of Libel. She has been called a 'stalker' herself by at least 10 other unrelated individuals and groups. Your comment is bullshit. She took 3k from Kickstarter and did NOTHING WITH IT! People are pissed, they want.their.CD!
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