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Post by rolph »

rolph wrote: post #18
RajT88 wrote: post #10

I love these stories of sci-fi movie diasasters. There are just as many insane stories of "amazing this classic ever got made". On the topic of disasters, I recommend reading about The Starlost: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlost

the "can i be of assistance" interface always reminded me of al jafee

Re: "can i be of assistance"

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069638/mediaviewer/rm194734796...

Occasionally, they are aided (or hindered) in their travels by the ship's frustrating and only partially-functioning computer system interface, known as Mu Lambda 165 (portrayed by William Osler, who also provided the opening narration for each episode).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlost

final paragraph of the premise

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Post by ulizzle »

edgyquant wrote: post #205
ulizzle wrote: post #134

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Granted innocent until proven guilty, but I wouldn’t hedge my bets on anyone from Hollywood being a paragon of moral justice oppressed by the powers that be, unless you want a nasty cut from Occam’s razor later on that week Especially given the rest of the behavior detailed in the article, which as always, no one ever reads

> Especially given the rest of the behavior detailed in the article, which as always, no one ever read Okay. So maybe don’t passive aggressively bring it up then

The biggest sin: bringing up inconvenient truths in public.

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Post by c0pium »

WalterBright wrote: post #238
c0pium wrote: post #233

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You should read the count of monte cristo, it’s in an entirely different league in terms of writing compared to Dune. The philosophy is transparent, the tactics and strategy are basically nonexistent, and the sociology is missing any kind of coherence.

In your second sentence, which book are you referring to?

Dune.

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Post by gverrilla »

Krasnol wrote: post #144
gverrilla wrote: post #102

Still waiting for Neuromancer movie.

I'm afraid it won't happen because there has been so many movies out there which were inspired by it. It could never live up to its visual and mood simulacra. Also, after they've killed The Peripheral before it actually got interesting, I don't think there is even interest in the plot out there.

In a quick google search it seems that supposedly there's a ongoing project on Neuromancer, although not much info is divulged.

But I agree with you: it would be EXTREMELLY difficult to live up to the book anyhow. Nevertheless, I think it will happen eventually: the book is incredible.

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Post by c0pium »

JasonSage wrote: post #241
c0pium wrote: post #237

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You have terrible taste.

And you have to let everybody know just how bad you think Dune is, in the most snarky and belittling way possible. Seriously, every reply of yours on this entire topic is combative. Have you considered what your agenda here is, and whether you’re participating in this discussion in good faith?

Oof, looks like I touched a nerve. I’m providing a measured response to the unexamined breathless enthusiasm for mediocre writing. I’ve had to talk lots of people into reading a second sci-fi series because they started with Dune and decided that the genre isn’t worth it.

Dune is fine. But people need to re-read it as adults or something before extolling it’s virtues from the rooftops as they do in this thread.

You should consider that you feeling attacked is as much about you as it is about me.

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Post by JasonSage »

c0pium wrote: post #305
JasonSage wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you have to let everybody know just how bad you think Dune is, in the most snarky and belittling way possible. Seriously, every reply of yours on this entire topic is combative. Have you considered what your agenda here is, and whether you’re participating in this discussion in good faith?

Oof, looks like I touched a nerve. I’m providing a measured response to the unexamined breathless enthusiasm for mediocre writing. I’ve had to talk lots of people into reading a second sci-fi series because they started with Dune and decided that the genre isn’t worth it. Dune is fine. But people need to re-read it as adults or something before extolling it’s virtues from the rooftops as they do in this thread. You s…

I’m not feeling attacked, and didn’t say I was. I'm just sorry for the folks you’re responding to.

Edit to clarify: for the precise reason that “you have terrible taste” is ad hominem, and contributes nothing to the discussion. This isn’t appreciated on HN.

I think if you worked on your delivery you might find folks have different reception to your ideas.

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Post by bhpm »

ewweezdsd wrote: post #294
bhpm wrote: post #276

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I just wait until I can buy it on the Apple TV store or I don’t watch it. Torrenting and maintaining the software to play movie files on my TV takes time and it just isn’t a priority for me.

To be honest all you need is a torrent client, HDMI cable and a laptop. Not much time required. With slightly more effort you can even intall Plex or Jellyfin on your laptop, and stream directly to your smart tv.

It’s not difficult, it’s just not a priority for me. I fiddle with computers all day at work. I don’t watch enough television to justify prioritizing that kind of set-up.

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Post by augustulus »

adamsb6 wrote: post #280
augustulus wrote: post #265

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as usual the stock market is to blame. in the 100 years or so it’s existed, the BBC has never really had a sustained drop in content quality, and yet its model is somehow taboo

Its model is government agents knocking on your door to verify you’re not watching without a license.

and yet somehow no one has a problem with the same thing on trains or buses

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Post by alexpotato »

rvba wrote: post #289
davely wrote: post #285

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This is where services like Rdio (sigh), Spotify and Apple Music have done really well, in my opinion. If I want to listen to some music, it’s practically guaranteed to be right there in the one music service I’m paying for. If I want to watch a show or movie, there’s now a bunch of cognitive overhead going going on. - Which app is it in? - Do we have that one? - Do we have a subscription? - Wait, how do we navigate…

It is very easy to be a monopoly, especially one that was first in a certain market, or which can use various tactics to make you use their service. You dont remember how Apple would upload some album into your device without your consent? I find it fascinating how many people allow monopolies for just laziness: "Steam is so great because I have all games in one place - I dont need 20 shortcuts on my desktop". Then S…

> everything becomes Neflix where quality is trash, but hey actors were chosen by an algorithm

I always thought that the algorithm had some successes (at least "back in the day")

e.g. The myth is that House of Cards came out of Netflix realizing that there were a lot of fans of Kevin Spacey, people wanted a complex story line etc. [0]

More recently, I kind of agree that the "enshittification" is starting to kick in but not sure how much of that is monopoly vs oligopoly. Which is sad b/c the big data, when used correctly, DOES lead to "sleeper" hits with different story lines/plots, old actors in new roles etc. This in turn makes me wonder if things were better under the old advertising/commercial supported model where ratings led to more ads which led to better writing etc. In other words, the networks knew exactly what was bringing in the revenue so they sent dollars to those shows. With Netflix, you know what people are watching but not necessarily what brought them to Netflix in the first place.

0 - Good explanation of this here: https://filmmakermagazine.com/64544-house-of-cards-the-netfl...

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