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Post by WendyTheWillow »

CaptWillard wrote: post #284
WendyTheWillow wrote: post #275

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History is filled with many more plain ol’ heretics however, and we’re exceptionally bad at telling the difference in the meantime. You, most importantly, are complete garbage at telling the difference between a crackpot and an innovator in a field you know nothing about. Trying to drink unpasteurized knowledge will infect you a lot more quickly than it will enlighten you.

I'd say that I regret engaging with you, but that last line is golden. It's not censorship, propaganda and official disinformation, it's "Pasteurized Knowledge®"

But that's the problem; you falsely believe you're capable of differentiating between propaganda and quality. You're not, on topics of which you are not an expert.

That's what flat-eartherism is, that's what jewish space lasers are. The argument you're giving is a tacit endorsement of that kind of "inquiry", which for reasonable people is unconscionable.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by 15457345234 »

da39a3ee wrote: post #187
15457345234 wrote: post #97

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Does it tell you the truth, or just stuff that sounds right?

Have you not been using chatGPT for programming questions this year? The implied criticism you're making became out of date when GPT4 was released. Of course, it makes things up when you stretch it, but the utility is no longer in question. What did you think all the fuss has been about?

> Have you not been using chatGPT for programming questions this year?

No, I'm a fighter pilot in EVE Online.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

modeless wrote: post #290
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #262

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I understand what you mean. It makes me wonder if there is room for a solution those who want to own their own hardware and data. Almost like other appliances and equipment that initial cost too much for household ownership but maybe having a “brain” in your house will be a luxury appliance for example. As a Crestron system owner I would love to plugin Jarvis to my smart home somehow.

I'm thinking I will open source mine for people who have GPUs but possibly try making a paid service for people who don't.

Maybe it can be a hardware with markup and support and consulting model. That way there could be many competitors in various regions or different countries and we all use the same collection of open source tools. That would be pretty neat. Unlikely I guess but still worth thinking about how it could work.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by numpad0 »

kaszanka wrote: post #283
numpad0 wrote: post #228

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Problem with ChatGPT isn't that they get facts wrong, but that they're what the categorical name suggests, large language models. At one point I came across this series of "are CJK languages related" questions in Quora with cached ChatGPT responses[1], all grammatically correct and very natural, largely turboencabulators, sometimes contradicting even within a single response. Podcasters? They're not _this_ inconsiste…

What's the issue with the answer for "Are Korean and Chinese mutually intelligible"? The highlighted part is definitely true, at least.

That part is correct, but not consistent with others.

My problem is not that GPTs are too often wrong, it's that they always prioritize syntax over facts since they are _language_ models.

The sentence "Colorless green ideas" always make more sense to LLM than "Water is wet", simply because the latter is syntactically invalid, and that would be problematic for many use cases including Podcast replacement. Sometimes us humans want AI to say "water is definitively wet", and that has been attempted by forcing LLM to accept that factoids are more syntactically correct, but that isn't a solution and it's still an architectural problem for these pseudo-AGI apps.

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Post by modeless »

moffkalast wrote: post #258
modeless wrote: post #257

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It's a full local stack. The TTS isn't Coqui, it's StyleTTS2.

Ahh cool, makes sense then. Haven't heard of that one before, I'll have to check it out.

It's quite new. Good quality and very fast.

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Post by hiq »

LeafItAlone wrote: post #252
hiq wrote: post #247

I wish I could have the text output instead of getting a vocal answer. We all can read way faster than we can listen to speech, and I don't need a lot of the fluff I get from LLMs. But I guess that's what most users want? Something that's closer to a conversation with a human? But I don't care about being polite with an LLM, it feels like an anti-pattern because it's too much overhead. Ideally I would: * query by voi…

> We all can read way faster than we can listen to speech I can’t. At least not with reading every word. I can finish an audiobook much faster than reading the book on my own. And I also can’t pick up as much reading by myself. My preferred way of consuming is now reading while a screen reader or audiobook is played at 1.5x or faster speed. Much better retention because

> At least not with reading every word.

That's the crux of the issue though, isn't it? I don't read words by reading single letters, and I don't think I read sentences by reading every single word either. That'd be the main reason why listening is slower than reading: the forced linearity.

To be fair, my "all" was clearly an exaggeration, I'm sure there are people for whom this doesn't apply, but I'd still expect it to apply to 50%+ of the populations of countries where literacy is not a significant issue anymore.

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Post by thfuran »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #274
thfuran wrote: post #256

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They absolutely have not been meticulously designed to be as factually accurate as possible.

https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/fine-tuning Yes, they have.

That link doesn't say anything about the fundamental design goals of the network architecture or training process. It doesn't even mention factual correctness, except in the sense that it may broadly fall under "producing a desired output".

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Post by mlrtime »

qwertox wrote: post #34
MillionOClock wrote: post #31

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I'm almost sure its streamed

It is streamed. They also offer this as an API for developers [0]. I just wish they'd offer more languages as it currently is English only. It can speak German and Spanish, but with a very clear English accent, which makes it kind of funny and makes one think about why the accent sounds so real. [0] https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/text-to-speech

I'm playing with it now, It can listen in Russian, reply in English or Russian.

The English pronunciation is perfect, but some Russian words do not have the correct pronounciation or emphasis.

I'm wondering if I can train the model to pronounce these words more accurately.

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Post by mlrtime »

superultra wrote: post #114

I’ve been using this for several weeks now and it’s replaced podcasts for me. I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying questions. Other times I’ll just goof off. In one chat, I’m rewriting the Star Wars sequels movie by movie with ChatGPT. I’ve realized that I’m built to learn socially, and ChatGPT never tires of my questions or gets annoyed. One interesting story. My 15 year old kid…

This remind me of the rick and morty episode, keep summer safe.

https://youtu.be/hguiN8oo0dI?si=8SWsnCMkjZ5bYLH9

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Post by da39a3ee »

15457345234 wrote: post #292
da39a3ee wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you not been using chatGPT for programming questions this year? The implied criticism you're making became out of date when GPT4 was released. Of course, it makes things up when you stretch it, but the utility is no longer in question. What did you think all the fuss has been about?

> Have you not been using chatGPT for programming questions this year? No, I'm a fighter pilot in EVE Online.

Ok cool. It's very, very useful. Clearly the biggest technological development in my life, and I grew up before the Internet.
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