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Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by bottled_poe »

underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

I hear you, but windows seems like a black box in a lot of ways. I don’t have any trust that what it tells me about running processes is accurate. Under Linux I feel like I am actually in control of the machine on a much greater scale. And I’m sure you know know what they say about great power..

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by asimovfan »

underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

Interesting, my experience is the opposite.. since windows 10 came out it became almost unusable and problematic with random stuff, even after debloating scripts. Ubuntu has been my go to system for a while now, and i basically just want to watch YouTube and edit text.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by [deleted] »

berkes wrote: post #24
buggythebug wrote: post #8

performance means nothing if the software you require doesn't run on it

which is why I "need" Linux. The software that I need, will run on Windows, but hardly and always with great effort and abysmal stability. And sometimes not at all. ruby/rbenv, nvm/node, rust/cargo, docker, nvim, ripgrep, git, rsync, ssh. All of which I sometimes, somehow managed to get running at some point when helping co-workers with their Windows machines. But the amount of fiddling, trial-and-errorring and such…

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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by heyoni »

uxp8u61q wrote: post #25
nicolaslem wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are at a stage where games built for Windows actually run better on Linux so this argument will probably not be relevant for too long anymore.

You mean some games built for Windows run better on Linux (and I'd be curious to know which ones actually run better). Some games barely run on Linux, some just don't work, some get broken by new versions, etc. And computers aren't just for gaming. Some people actually work with their computers. Let me know when photoshop or autocad run smoothly on Linux.

Cyberpunk runs exactly 3fps lower on NixOS than on windows during benchmarks on ultra, with dlss and ray tracing. Totally negligible performance difference but being on Linux is not.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by xattt »

noir_lord wrote: post #35
underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

> Perhaps I should have chosen another flavor? That'll ignite a holy war. The trick with linux isn't to learn the flavour, it's to learn linux - once you get an overview of how all the bits work then switching distro is (much) more straightforward. Ubuntu is an excellent first choice because it's one of the major distro's so you'll be able to google stuff more easily. My personal recommendation would be Fedora (and i…

Any comment on Arch one you get going? I find the documentation quite thorough for the niggly bits, and have used it to troubleshoot Ubuntu (taking into account differences between the distros).

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by vorticalbox »

noir_lord wrote: post #35
underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

> Perhaps I should have chosen another flavor? That'll ignite a holy war. The trick with linux isn't to learn the flavour, it's to learn linux - once you get an overview of how all the bits work then switching distro is (much) more straightforward. Ubuntu is an excellent first choice because it's one of the major distro's so you'll be able to google stuff more easily. My personal recommendation would be Fedora (and i…

I have been eyeing up Fedora Onyx for the immutable root

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by smoldesu »

fredgrott wrote: post #18

I just did a mind meld of what one needed to do to get a M3 performance wise through using NVIDIA and Intel chips... Take away a 13900 or 14000 intel CPU and an NVIDIA 4090 will give m3 performance...cheap ipower tower at best buy for $1800...see https://fredgrott.substack.com/p/beating-m3-in-a-flutter-dev... Had to figure out which way to go with the assumption that production app builds was through cloud...currentl…

> a 13900 or 14000 intel CPU and an NVIDIA 4090 will give m3 performance

???

These are not comparable CPUs with similar core counts or clock speeds. Apple doesn't even sell a GPU that you can compare to the 4090 in benchmarks.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by okl »

okr wrote: post #37
underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

No worries. I have installed windows 11 lately and i find it tedious. It constantly wants to register me somewhere, it asks me to have this as standard, and it is always updating something and asks me to reboot. And why i cant remove certain things from my taskbar? So, i guess, we both have out difficulties. Like always.

Maybe this tool can help you disable some of those things: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by avgcorrection »

criddell wrote: post #26

I hope the community really gets behind Snap or Flatpak or one of the other systems for bringing a modern permissions and privileges system to the Linux desktop. It would help me be a lot more comfortable recommending Linux to non-technical people. What distro would you recommend to somebody like me who wants to be asked before an application gets access to my location, microphone, camera, network, etc...?

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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Post by oldnetguy »

noir_lord wrote: post #35
underseacables wrote: post #28

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

> Perhaps I should have chosen another flavor? That'll ignite a holy war. The trick with linux isn't to learn the flavour, it's to learn linux - once you get an overview of how all the bits work then switching distro is (much) more straightforward. Ubuntu is an excellent first choice because it's one of the major distro's so you'll be able to google stuff more easily. My personal recommendation would be Fedora (and i…

> That'll ignite a holy war.

And that has been the major problem with Linux for years.

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