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We are at a stage where games built for Windows actually run better on Linux so this argument will probably not be relevant for too long anymore.
If they run at all, that is. The latest update to League of Legends seems to have broken it for all Linux users.
Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#32Not surprised though, with AMD being able to patch the Linux kernel and scheduler to its liking in order to squeeze out the maximum performance for it's architecture, versus depending on Microsoft to have the good will to figure it out on their own dime. I'd be curious if the businesses buying these $20k+, 96-core, HEDT workstations actually do run Windows on them in order for this to be that big of a problem for Mic…
Pretty sure Microsoft is very cooperative on working with AMD and others on this stuff, it may just take a little longer in this case.
Cutler stated in a recent interview that he had a 96-core machine as one of his two daily drivers. I wondered at the time if he pre-announced that CPU since the press about it seemed to reach me a few days later.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#33I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#34I have two rigs here at home. A 12700k gaming box with a high end Nvme disk. Also, a 13900k workstation with Nvme disks as well. The gaming box runs Windows 11, and it feels generally snappy until I’m navigating the filesystem or dealing with compression. On the flip side the other box is running Debian 12 and feels significantly faster. Could be 12th gen vs 13th gen but I don’t think that’s the case.
I have a Zen 2 Threadripper box that I dual boot (it's a workstation for coding that I sometimes play games on), and I can confirm. I don't know what the exact technical reason is or why nobody in Redmond is embarrassed. But anything relating to the filesystem is simply dog-slow on Windows, and the more high-end your system is, the more this becomes the major bottleneck.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#35I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…
That'll ignite a holy war.
The trick with linux isn't to learn the flavour, it's to learn linux - once you get an overview of how all the bits work then switching distro is (much) more straightforward.
Ubuntu is an excellent first choice because it's one of the major distro's so you'll be able to google stuff more easily.
My personal recommendation would be Fedora (and if you want a familiar windows 10 at least in approach GUI) Cinnamon which is excellent.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
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Funny you mention this because a lot of big visual arts studios use Mac for the artwork in the Adobe ecosystem, and heavily invested in Linux for the 3D rendering pipelines as they moved away from SGI/BSD with Windows almost nowhere on the radar. I'd estimate the number of big-name shops running Windows is a minority with only smaller indie studios like Corridor Digital being all-in on Windows because it's a jack of…
"a lot" is nowhere near "all"
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#37I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#38I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…
I would also like to add that often you'll find answers to stuff telling you to use a couple of commands when instead you could use existing gui tools. That might be because commands are faster for people that already know them, but often they're not the only way.
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#39I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…
Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper
#40I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…
No worries. I have installed windows 11 lately and i find it tedious. It constantly wants to register me somewhere, it asks me to have this as standard, and it is always updating something and asks me to reboot. And why i cant remove certain things from my taskbar? So, i guess, we both have out difficulties. Like always.
No, windows nagging you to register is not in the same ballpark as your audio not working or your video resolution changing with multiple monitors. No, windows updates adding or removing features are not equivalent to the problems linux has, many of which are showstoppers.
You're trying to be snarky and this is one reason why so many regular Joes are reluctant to adopt linux. you never know when you will need the terminal and when you will encounter an unhelpful response like this.