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Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by ddxv »

vore wrote: post #142
superultra wrote: post #114

I’ve been using this for several weeks now and it’s replaced podcasts for me. I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying questions. Other times I’ll just goof off. In one chat, I’m rewriting the Star Wars sequels movie by movie with ChatGPT. I’ve realized that I’m built to learn socially, and ChatGPT never tires of my questions or gets annoyed. One interesting story. My 15 year old kid…

How can you tell if ChatGPT is lying to you and what you're learning is total hogwash?

I've been developing understanding from using it for coding. I guess a lot of us are developing this understanding. It is very trustable about high level things many people know. As the knowledge is more specific or esoteric the less trustworthy it is.

If my mom asks it questions about my work industry, they are vague and high level enough that chatgpt is very accurate in it's answers.

If I ask it probing questions I care about my industry it hallucinates or fails to grasp key terminology.

So, if I was OP, likely asking it broad questions about things I know very little about is quite safe. Going too far down a rabbit hole to something super specific I would want to verify on Wikipedia.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by lemming »

modeless wrote: post #84
lemming wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Related to the subthread above, and something I've been thinking about - how do you detect when the user has stopped speaking so the bot can respond?

Great question! Right now both ChatGPT and my demo are doing very simple and basic stuff that definitely needs improvement. ChatGPT is essentially push-to-talk with a little bit of automation to attempt to press the button automatically at certain times. Mine is continuously listening and can be interrupted while speaking, but isn't yet smart enough to delay responding if you pause in the middle of a sentence, or sto…

That is really interesting, thanks for the insight!

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Post by akho »

vore wrote: post #150
WendyTheWillow wrote: post #148

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Good thing podcasts never have false/misleading information on them...

This is an absurd argument that you are just making for the sake of argument and you know it. There's a difference between someone getting things wrong and a LLM shamelessly making something up out of the whole cloth.

Is there a similar difference between an LLM getting things wrong and someone shamelessly making something up out of the whole cloth? That's closer to what actually happens.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by Taurenking »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #152
vore wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an absurd argument that you are just making for the sake of argument and you know it. There's a difference between someone getting things wrong and a LLM shamelessly making something up out of the whole cloth.

No; I'm much more confident in ChatGPT's accuracy than I am in a random podcast's accuracy. Podcasts tend to be relatively terrible, accuracy wise. If the alternative is learning from ChatGPT, your odds of getting correct information is substantially higher. Podcasts are entertaining! But not where I would go to learn anything.

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Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by gettodachoppa »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #144
w-ll wrote: post #117

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Me, as a meat popsicle, can you explain to me how the phrase “kind of” is not common? I feel like “kind of” is kind of a common adjective phrase, right?

You can entirely remove it from your speech and lose very little.

fr fr, low-key this is true.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by willvarfar »

vore wrote: post #142
superultra wrote: post #114

I’ve been using this for several weeks now and it’s replaced podcasts for me. I’ll just pick a topic and then ask for a summary and then ask clarifying questions. Other times I’ll just goof off. In one chat, I’m rewriting the Star Wars sequels movie by movie with ChatGPT. I’ve realized that I’m built to learn socially, and ChatGPT never tires of my questions or gets annoyed. One interesting story. My 15 year old kid…

How can you tell if ChatGPT is lying to you and what you're learning is total hogwash?

Right now, chatgpt is trained on a broad spectrum of slightly dated information, so hopefully the biases even out. And we know it hallucinates etc.

In the future I see two big risks with the tech, approach and ownership:

1) short term, SEO is going to move into trying to influence the LLMs to push products unwittingly. Companies will be getting great offers from shady SEO outfits promising to make their products the default answers for broad questions?

2) mid term, now that all sense and pretence of safety and greater good are gone from openai, openai will be working out how to insert and see ads in the results? There will probably even be product placement in the results coming from the paid-for in-ms-office version.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by pjerem »

One of the reason i don’t want openAI to die isn’t only the (impressive) power of GPT-4.

Actually, it’s the mobile application. They should have opted for a boring PWA but instead they developed a nice native application with good UI/UX. I also appreciate that they created integrations with the Shortcuts app which allows you to do make very powerful things. I really hope they extends this because it’s text only for now but now with GPT4V and the new ability to generate files, you could do impressive things with shortcuts.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by gettodachoppa »

lagt_t wrote: post #136
simoncion wrote: post #121

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> Imagine being pissed that someone is hearing and learning from your voice as you’re having conversation together. Hello. USian here, talking about things from a USian perspective! YMMV in other countries, visit your local dealership for more information, & etc, etc, etc. A multi-million (or multi-billion) dollar company who can * Store recordings all of my utterances forever * Use my recordings to make tons of mone…

Why aren't you complaining about what happens to your HN posts?

It's a spectrum, not a binary. They may not care about HN posts because:

1. We're anonymous here (by default)

2. You can't be fingerprinted from your HN posts the way you can be with your unique voice

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by superhuzza »

jmccarthy wrote: post #106
lkozloff wrote: post #7

Interesting - this was actually a feature that got me to convert. I have some slight annoyances with how it handles natural pauses as I collect my thoughts and speak, but overall it's been great. I've had some interesting discussions and it's helped me structure some thoughts by asking questions and follow-ups, then summarizing our conversation... all while I'm on a walk. One fun thing I did with my family was have i…

While walking the dog today, it talked me through some trade-offs between DBSCAN and isolation forests. Walking + verbalizing the problem is a very different and positive experience for me. I've also used it several times on ~15-20min drives to memorize something I wanted to have available for immediate recall. I had it chunk & quiz me, and by the end of the drive I had it down pat. Fun use of drive time.

A word of caution - I've asked ChatGPT 3.5 to generate quizzes based on books before and while most answers were right, a few were technically wrong, and some were outright fabrications (presented very confidently!)

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

gettodachoppa wrote: post #178
lagt_t wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why aren't you complaining about what happens to your HN posts?

It's a spectrum, not a binary. They may not care about HN posts because: 1. We're anonymous here (by default) 2. You can't be fingerprinted from your HN posts the way you can be with your unique voice

Voice makes a very bad fingerprint. Especially when you know you can simulate it from like 2 seconds recording with AI.
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