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Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by simoncion »

3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #118
I_am_tiberius wrote: post #112

Let me guess, your voices are being used for training purposes. I miss discussions about what a privacy nightmare it is that all the information you share is forever owned by openai and can be used for training purposes - BY DEFAULT!

Imagine being pissed that someone is hearing and learning from your voice as you’re having conversation together. The concepts of copyright and privacy we have come from a different world and they already made little sense in the 90s with the rise of the web and search. We think of them as absolute but they are a human invention. Arbitrary and specific to the zeitgeist it was born in. We need boundaries for sure. But…

> Imagine being pissed that someone is hearing and learning from your voice as you’re having conversation together.

Hello. USian here, talking about things from a USian perspective! YMMV in other countries, visit your local dealership for more information, & etc, etc, etc.

A multi-million (or multi-billion) dollar company who can

* Store recordings all of my utterances forever

* Use my recordings to make tons of money without ever sending me a cent

* Share my recordings with "trusted business partners" for "contractually-agreed-upon [with their partners, not with me] purposes" whenever they feel like

* In short, use those recordings that they've stored forever for any nearly any purpose they see fit to

is not "someone" that I'm having a "conversation" with.

When I have a conversation with someone, they have a human's capacity to remember and disseminate that information. People get worse and worse at remembering things as those things recede into the past. Even if someone remembers an event very clearly, it's also usually impossible for someone to perfectly relate that event to another.

When a company records what I'm saying and feeds that recording into their perfect-copy-machines and the perfect-copy-machines of their "trusted business partners", that's an entirely different thing. Surely you see that?

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by chamoda »

nier wrote: post #100

App Store on iOS 17.1.1 in Europe has ChatGPT app version 1.2023.319 (14269) released three days ago. No sign of ChatGPT Voice. No headphone icon to be found. There’s also no «New Features» entry in Settings on the mobile app and so no way to opt into voice conversations as the blog article suggests. https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt-can-now-see-hear-and-speak Edit: The headphone icon appeared on Nov 22, 2023 around 6a…

Anyone having trouble getting this working, just close the app and reopen.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

modeless wrote: post #60
amelius wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What models/libraries is it based on?

Currently OpenHermes2-Mistral-7B (via exllama2), OpenAI Whisper (via faster_whisper), and StyleTTS2 (uses HF Transformers). All PyTorch-based. I will probably update to the OpenHermes vision model when Nous Research releases it, so it'll be able to see with the webcam or even read your screen and chat about what you're working on! I also need to update to Whisper-v3 or Distil-Whisper, and I need to update to a newer…

This is why I think the personal Jarvis for everyday use won’t eventually be in the cloud. It can already be done on local hw as you are demonstrating and cloud has big downsides around privacy and latency and reliability.

Like you said it’s difficult to keep up with and to me it feels very much like open source stuff might win for inference.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

simoncion wrote: post #121
3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine being pissed that someone is hearing and learning from your voice as you’re having conversation together. The concepts of copyright and privacy we have come from a different world and they already made little sense in the 90s with the rise of the web and search. We think of them as absolute but they are a human invention. Arbitrary and specific to the zeitgeist it was born in. We need boundaries for sure. But…

> Imagine being pissed that someone is hearing and learning from your voice as you’re having conversation together. Hello. USian here, talking about things from a USian perspective! YMMV in other countries, visit your local dealership for more information, & etc, etc, etc. A multi-million (or multi-billion) dollar company who can * Store recordings all of my utterances forever * Use my recordings to make tons of mone…

It's not sending you a cent? Care to explain why someone would use ChatGPT Free with voice, if this provides no value to them? Pokes a sizable hole in your entire argument. It's not like the government came to your house and told you "use it or go to jail".

Do you ask people for money when they talk to you in general? Saying "it's not a someone" is just arbitrary categorization. If it was like talking to a wall, you probably wouldn't talk to it, or would you? Is it possible not everything has a monetary aspect on personal level, but on a corporate level that's the only way you can capture value which is then also expressed in non-monetary ways such as people providing work or advice for the furtherment of a goal or project?

I don't know. Let's maybe think about the word we live in. Some might say the most worthless thing in the world is money. What is it good for by itself? It's not only useless paper you can't even wipe your behind with, but these days it's just digits on a computer. But the value you can get out of it is provided by people and systems that do something useful for you in exchange for it. And if something provides that value directly in communication with you, that's much the same as being paid digits on a computer.

In other words, are we so shallow we need to first pay for ChatGPT's output in money, and then it should pay us back the same money (or less) for our voices and data, in order to comprehend what a barter exchange of value is?

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

miki123211 wrote: post #30
Mandelmus wrote: post #25

Can somebody who knows their stuff about voice synthesis explain to me why chatGPT sounds like it's speaking German with an American accent when I speak to it in German? It's really surprising how believably it sounds like a native American-speaker speaking excellent, just not accent-free, German. I would imagine that voice synthesis models would somehow be trained on data from native speakers, so why the accent?

The same thing happens with Polish, it's your typical Polish Chicago resident.

Can you make a compassion between polish / polish Chicago and any two US accents?

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by chiragjn »

charles_f wrote: post #108

I don't get why in the midst of llm craze, Amazon is ditching devs from Alexa. It seems like abandoning a product for which the right technology just got invented

They seem to have a similar concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqS3NxJ2L_I But I think very few think of Alexa as a personal assistant, most people are just happy playing music and toggling room lights.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by pjerem »

baby wrote: post #113
atlasunshrugged wrote: post #6

I just tried it out and I have to say I am blown away. I've never been someone who likes the voice capabilities (tried Siri once or twice, hated it) for just about any service as I can type pretty quickly but this is intelligent enough that I can have an unstructured conversation and still get to the results I want quickly. Very impressive.

I just got the Rayban Meta glasses an hour ago, put them on, said "Hey Meta" and I was interacting with an AI with my voice, and hearing a response back. It's so unbelievable and surreal I don't understand why Siri/Google assistant are not doing this already. I really feel like I live in the future.

> I don't understand why Siri/Google assistant are not doing this already.

My theory is that voice assistants are made to be cheap entry points to those ecosystems. LLMs, on the other hand, are incredibly expensive to run. No GAFAM wants to pay dozens of cents when you ask their assistant to switch on the lights.

Re: ChatGPT with voice is now available to all free users

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Post by kingofpandora »

51Cards wrote: post #46

Where is this available? I have the app installed but I don't see a headphones button, just one that seems to record my voice and then attempts to transcribe it for submission (and fails every time). I'm on Android, App icon is the black ChatGPT logo on a white background. Thanks!

I had to click the pencil/edit button first.
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