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Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by josh2600 »

replwoacause wrote: post #47

Can someone in the know explain how Bard could be as bad as it is, considering Google has been investing in AI for as long as they have? I thought they were earlier than most to begin serious work on AI? How could Bard suck this bad?

The answer to why BigCo can’t outcompete startup is always the same.

In BigCo you have ego that blocks authentic artistic critique. There are traditions. There are rules. We learned our lesson last time.

In the best organizations, artistic critique is a time-honored tradition passed down from the elders to the padwans. Young Jedi learn how to navigate the matrix with the blessings of their ancestors.

Unfortunately, hacking culture in a big org is outré. What made Apple special was that Steve Jobs created many hidden micro cultures within his asylum that allowed so many unorthodox experiments, some of them even worked out.

Maybe you have some other examples of people who have been able to hold a core business and build the next iteration many many times successfully? They’re rare birds.

Edit: for clarity, Google could have a killerAI product in a year if they would kill their ego. Demis Hassibis (I think that’s how you spell his name, sorry) the CEO @ DeepMind can absolutely build the thing they want, but they’d have to give him carte Blanche, and they won’t.

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Post by dwwoelfel »

I'm impressed. I asked it "How much is a flight from San Francisco to the rapid & blitz tournament over Christmas?" and it figured out which tournament I was talking about and showed me ticket prices.

https://g.co/bard/share/7966410c42af

ChatGPT also figured it out, but Bard is much better at displaying information: https://chat.openai.com/share/ba5d5acc-7b40-46e1-ada5-74b4a6...

Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by cdata »

replwoacause wrote: post #47

Can someone in the know explain how Bard could be as bad as it is, considering Google has been investing in AI for as long as they have? I thought they were earlier than most to begin serious work on AI? How could Bard suck this bad?

The answer is some combination of two phenomena:

1. The Innovator's Dilemma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innovator%27s_Dilemma)

This is the premise that a mature incumbent will usually fail to respond fast enough to disruptive innovations by an upstart because their organization is optimized to continue providing existing customers sustaining improvements to the products they are already paying for.

2. The Coordination Headwind (https://komoroske.com/slime-mold/)

This is the premise that cross-functional coordination difficulty grows superlinearly as the organization scales.

The relative influence of these phenomena is a matter of debate. And, there may be other factors at play.

But, the mix of needing to respond (against organizational incentives) to a disruptive innovation while also trying to align long-established factions, product teams and PAs - many with a motivation to have an outsized influence over the new effort - within the organization presents a Herculean challenge.

Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by coder543 »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #52
RandomThrow321 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did you see that? It seems this is integrating two extensions together, I'm curious how that would work. I asked it "@gmail summarize my last 5 emails" and that worked decently. Edit: Actually, I'm not completely certain how the "@ " syntax works. Are the results limited to that app?

I just tried "@gmail summarize my last 5 emails" and got: > I don't have access to your Gmail account, so I can't summarize your last 5 emails. However, I can help you summarize your emails if you provide them to me.

You must enable Bard history for these features to work, and you must go to the extensions page and make sure they’re turned on. Arguing with a model that doesn’t have access to the extensions won’t make it suddenly use the extensions.

Summarizing my last 5 emails worked just fine with bard using that query.

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Post by ars »

letmevoteplease wrote: post #69
ars wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I put all questions to both Bard and chatGPT. The exact same words. Bard is almost always better. For example try: "why does my hole saw have a spring over the drill bit?" Bard is correct, chatGPT makes up nonsense. (There's no such thing as "pilot bit extension spring", and the rest of the reply makes little sense as well.) https://chat.openai.com/share/485a6968-6379-4f64-87b3-6c1575... https://g.co/bard/share/01c5b…

Here is GPT-4 for reference. I can't judge the quality. https://chat.openai.com/share/96d4f976-627f-4cc3-8716-3557d5...

It's a very good reply.

Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by ars »

rvnx wrote: post #64
ars wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I put all questions to both Bard and chatGPT. The exact same words. Bard is almost always better. For example try: "why does my hole saw have a spring over the drill bit?" Bard is correct, chatGPT makes up nonsense. (There's no such thing as "pilot bit extension spring", and the rest of the reply makes little sense as well.) https://chat.openai.com/share/485a6968-6379-4f64-87b3-6c1575... https://g.co/bard/share/01c5b…

Are you sure you are using the latest version of ChatGPT ? It could have been an outdated version (3.5) from one year ago (based on the green logo).

Yes, I'm using 3.5, but that's the free version, and I don't need AI often enough to want to pay $20 for version 4.
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