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Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by lacrimacida »

replwoacause wrote: post #47

Can someone in the know explain how Bard could be as bad as it is, considering Google has been investing in AI for as long as they have? I thought they were earlier than most to begin serious work on AI? How could Bard suck this bad?

Google has good research. Bard is half baked therefore not a great product as of now & not sure if or when. Maybe they were under so much pressure from openai that they indeed rush released it, way before it had to be seen out by public eyes. To me it seems/feels in beta

Re: Bard Extensions

#52

Post by davidmurdoch »

RandomThrow321 wrote: post #49
davidmurdoch wrote: post #43

Bard: > simply type the name of the product that you want to access after the "@gmail" prompt. For example, to access Google Docs, you would type "@gmail docs". Me > @gmail docs Bard > Unfortunately, Bard Extensions is still under development and currently doesn't support full integration with Google Docs through Gmail.

Where did you see that? It seems this is integrating two extensions together, I'm curious how that would work. I asked it "@gmail summarize my last 5 emails" and that worked decently. Edit: Actually, I'm not completely certain how the "@ " syntax works. Are the results limited to that app?

I just tried "@gmail summarize my last 5 emails" and got:

> I don't have access to your Gmail account, so I can't summarize your last 5 emails. However, I can help you summarize your emails if you provide them to me.

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#53

Post by jzombie »

replwoacause wrote: post #47

Can someone in the know explain how Bard could be as bad as it is, considering Google has been investing in AI for as long as they have? I thought they were earlier than most to begin serious work on AI? How could Bard suck this bad?

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Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by RandomThrow321 »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #50
RandomThrow321 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did you see that? It seems this is integrating two extensions together, I'm curious how that would work. I asked it "@gmail summarize my last 5 emails" and that worked decently. Edit: Actually, I'm not completely certain how the "@ " syntax works. Are the results limited to that app?

I prompted bard with "What is bard extensions?" and that was part of its response.

Ha, good call. I tried that, it seemed showed a bunch of examples that seem to leave out the extension name. I wish the tutorial was better.

Re: Bard Extensions

#55

Post by golergka »

uoaei wrote: post #41
golergka wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just tried it, and yeah — it's pretty bad. It first told me that OpenAI's latest model is GPT-3 and only budged to 3.5 after follow-up questions. I mean, isn't retrieving up-to-date and accurate information from the internet the whole Google's thing?

LLMs don't retrieve anything unless there's infra in place so that they can go and do that. It's called Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) and it's still pretty new enough that it hasn't been integrated in all workflows. There was a bunch of copy early on claiming LLMs "read the internet and find you results" but it's weaselly wording and was until remarkably recently complete BS.

Thanks, I know. I built RAG systems with vector databases and related infra. And yes, that's exactly what it claims to do, even with "results verified by Google" in the interface.

Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by davidmurdoch »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #52
RandomThrow321 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where did you see that? It seems this is integrating two extensions together, I'm curious how that would work. I asked it "@gmail summarize my last 5 emails" and that worked decently. Edit: Actually, I'm not completely certain how the "@ " syntax works. Are the results limited to that app?

I just tried "@gmail summarize my last 5 emails" and got: > I don't have access to your Gmail account, so I can't summarize your last 5 emails. However, I can help you summarize your emails if you provide them to me.

To which I responded:

> You do have access via the new "extensions" feature.

And it said:

> Thank you for reminding me about the new Gmail extensions feature. I am still under development and working on integrating with those features. Unfortunately, I am currently unable to access your Gmail account even with your permission. > > However, once the integration is complete, I will be able to access your Gmail account with your permission and summarize your last 5 emails. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Is there anything else I can help you with in the meantime?

Re: Bard Extensions

#57

Post by [deleted] »

jzombie wrote: post #53
replwoacause wrote: post #47

Can someone in the know explain how Bard could be as bad as it is, considering Google has been investing in AI for as long as they have? I thought they were earlier than most to begin serious work on AI? How could Bard suck this bad?

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#58

Post by [deleted] »

Tommstein wrote: post #36
webappguy wrote: post #32

Bard is utter junk. I used to proclaim to everyone how it had its place as an equal tool in my daily AI tool chest specifically for web browsing. When they updated it and said I could access YouTube transcriptions etc it never really could and still can't. It hallucinates far more than any other llm premium model like Claude or Perplexity. Thus far they better get their s** together for Gemini or they're toast and th…

I've been using Bard since it came out. Its trajectory, in my opinion, has been "pretty shitty" → "pretty good" → "completely shitty".

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Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by mvdtnz »

jzombie wrote: post #53
replwoacause wrote: post #47

Can someone in the know explain how Bard could be as bad as it is, considering Google has been investing in AI for as long as they have? I thought they were earlier than most to begin serious work on AI? How could Bard suck this bad?

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Don't do this please.

Re: Bard Extensions

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Post by rvnx »

jzombie wrote: post #53
replwoacause wrote: post #47

Can someone in the know explain how Bard could be as bad as it is, considering Google has been investing in AI for as long as they have? I thought they were earlier than most to begin serious work on AI? How could Bard suck this bad?

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This is also because in Google you tend to get more easily promoted once you launch a new product, than when you do maintenance.

So the most logical course at this stage, based on typical politics at Google, would be to shutdown Bard, and launch a new product instead (like what has happened with all the messengers / social network apps)

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