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Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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SBF decided to testify against CZ to try to save his own ass, giving justice dept and sec something to fine CZ with. Govt collects a big crypto fine, fine makes the big losers in FTX whole, problem solved. CZ should have just bought FTX and closed the deal and made people whole, woulda saved himself some drama.

It would have failed eventually. FTX was fundamentally unstable.

Everything fails eventually.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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SBF decided to testify against CZ to try to save his own ass, giving justice dept and sec something to fine CZ with. Govt collects a big crypto fine, fine makes the big losers in FTX whole, problem solved. CZ should have just bought FTX and closed the deal and made people whole, woulda saved himself some drama.

he has infinite supply of money to pay any fine, i dont really understand the fine amount, whats the porpouse of it, u either force them to destroy the whole exchange or just try to make their complete reputation go down but this looks like the govt getting some pocket money and letting them keep doing nasty things overseas and thats it?

that's what fines are for.

most people criticize fines as a mere check for the offender belonging to some moneyed elite and nothing else.

fines are not replacement for civil law. if anyone think they were wronged, that's the only way. not a magically proactive government becoming their patents.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CZ is much smarter, he didn't have any number 2s that could testify against him, and had already moved to a non-extradition country years ago. SBF thought he was cleverer than everybody and testified himself straight into a 8x10 cell for the foreseeable future.

Every move SBF made after his fall seemed extremely poorly thought out. Not a hater, just processing the dichotomy of his genius image with his ingeniously ungenius self-immolation. Lesson: Looking like you make lots of money makes you look very smart.

PR rules the day, especially when you're VC-funded and have to maintain the charade of subject matter expertise. Although you'd think his Stanford Law professor father would have at least attempted to duct tape his son's mouth shut when it became clear he planned to testify.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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Perhaps this was the final takedown necessary to pave the way for BTC ETF approval.

Why does BTC need an ETF at all, doesn’t that defeat the purpose of owning one’s own wallets? Also… exchanges defeating the purpose of decentralization…

Many foreign-currency ETFs exist. Euros, or yen, or dollars can function as currencies even though some people also view them as investments.

Commodities are similar. People might invest in pork bellies even if they don't personally eat bacon.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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SBF decided to testify against CZ to try to save his own ass, giving justice dept and sec something to fine CZ with. Govt collects a big crypto fine, fine makes the big losers in FTX whole, problem solved. CZ should have just bought FTX and closed the deal and made people whole, woulda saved himself some drama.

Check the Reuters investigative pieces on CZ and Binance from 2022. They had plenty to fine him with before SBF's testimony.

I actually can't believe he didn't get jail time given the severity of what was uncovered.

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I can see how it helps clear the bad image of the industry, the two are not directly related. The ETF was/is going to get approved regardless.

How does it help clear the bad image? There are seemingly no large crypto orgs left that are untouched by criminal convictions.

There are seemingly no large tradfi bank or organization left that are untouched by criminal convictions. So then what?

Re: Binance founder Changpeng Zhao agrees to step down, plead guilty

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I'm absolutely astonished by this. He lives in the Middle East, which does not have any extradition treaties with America. Granted, he might transit a country that has a treaty, but I'm really shocked that he would give him. What did they have over him? Maybe it was China…

> He lives in the Middle East, which does not have any extradition treaties with America. He lives in Dubai, within one of the US's closest allies in the region. I'd be worried.

There are so many people who do not want to show up in the US (or elsewhere) and are living in Dubai that I would not be too worried. There is a full spectrum from former businessmen to current warlords.

Dubai has a lot to lose by damaging its reputation as a safe haven for wealthy exiles. My 2c.

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