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Who Controls OpenAI?

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Re: Who Controls OpenAI?

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We already invented AGI in the form of corporations, but the alignment problem hasn't been solved yet, to the annoyance of some of the GI subcomponents.

Amazingly, this is one of the very few comments on this discussion thread that actually addresses the article in the OP.

Re: Who Controls OpenAI?

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Connections at that level don't mean a lot because sitting on the same philanthropy boards is a form of networking, it'd be like finding them on the same Discord server, in terms of significance and the number of links you could make that way.

Of course, but both Toner and McCauley are on the same boards with the same handful of organizations (Centre for Governance of AI, Centre for Effective Altruism, OpenAI) and Toner (and her coworkers/managers like former OpenAI Board Member Holden Karnofsky) both managed grantmaking from OpenPhilanthropy to the organizations above. If you're working together in that many organizations you will end up having a working…

How did Tasha McCauley know Dustin Moskovitz?

Re: Who Controls OpenAI?

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> Like: What if OpenAI has achieved artificial general intelligence, and it’s got some godlike superintelligence in some box somewhere, straining to get out? And the board was like “this is too dangerous, we gotta kill it,” and Altman was like “no we can charge like $59.95 per month for subscriptions,”

The story of Silicon Valley summed up nicely.

Re: Who Controls OpenAI?

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, but both Toner and McCauley are on the same boards with the same handful of organizations (Centre for Governance of AI, Centre for Effective Altruism, OpenAI) and Toner (and her coworkers/managers like former OpenAI Board Member Holden Karnofsky) both managed grantmaking from OpenPhilanthropy to the organizations above. If you're working together in that many organizations you will end up having a working…

How did Tasha McCauley know Dustin Moskovitz?

That's what I want to know !

Re: Who Controls OpenAI?

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I'm a firm believer that greed triumphs over any other possible explanation about why things happen to be the way they are (not that I like it but true is true). So, I'm not surprised in the least that most OpenAI's (and everywhere else's) engineers follow the most profitable path. It's a delusion to think that the creation of an AGI is something that could be prevented, or that it could be prevented so easily (by fi…

I don't think it's greed to want to raise a family in a good neighborhood and provide your children with opportunities. Or pay for your parents medical appointments. Or not want to work well into your 80's. If that's greed then everyone is "greedy".

What is funny is that in 2023 to achieve that basic standard you describe, you need to invent AGI along the way.

Re: Who Controls OpenAI?

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Are the operating agreement or partnership agreement of OpenAI GP or OpenAI Global, LLC publicly available? And the actual licensing agreement between OpenAI and Microsoft isn't public, is it? The reporting on this is so bad and contradictory. Without knowing for sure what these documents actually say, it's impossible to speak authoritatively about what's going on and how it will shake out. That said, generally a maj…

For LLCs, fiduciary duties can be, and often are, waived under Delaware law.

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