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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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I will be very sad if there isn’t a documentary someday explaining what in the world happened. I’m not convinced even people smack in the middle of this even know what’s going on.

So far the best recap of events I’ve seen is that of AI Explained. He almost makes it make sense. Almost. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dyakih3oYpk

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Im beginning to lean toward the time traveler sent back to prevent AGI by destroying OpenAI theory. Heh it reminds me of then end of terminator 2. imagine the tech community waking up and trying to make sense of Cyberdyne corp HQ exploding and the ensuing shootouts, “Like wtf just happened?!”.

But really they came back to destroy it not because it turned rogue, but because it hallucinated some code a junior engineer immediately merged in and then after the third time this happened a senior engineer decided it was easier to invent time travel and stop ChatGPT ProCode 5 from happening before spending yet another week troubleshooting hallucinated code.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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As I posted elsewhere, I think this is a conflict between Dustin Moskovitz and Sam Altman. Ilya may have been brought into this without his knowledge (which might explain why he retracted his position). Dustin Moskovitz was an early employee at FB, and the founder of Asana. He also created (along with plenty of MSFT bigwigs) a non-profit called Open Philanthropy, which was a early proponent of a form of Effective Alt…

Okay, I know this is a very naive question, but anyways: might Dustin /the board be onto something regarding AI safety which was not there before?

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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The fact that these people aren't currently willing to "rewind the clock" about a week shows the dangers of human ego. Nothing permanent has been done that can't be undone fairly simply, if all parties agree to undo it. What we're watching now is the effect of ego momentum on decision making. Try it. It's not a crazy idea. Put everything back the way it was a week ago and then agree to move forward. It will be like h…

Trust takes years to build and seconds to destroy.

It's like a cheating lover. Yes I'm sure both parties would love to rewind the clock, but unfortunately that's not possible.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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A few things come to mind: * Emmett Shear should have put in a strong golden parachute in his contract, easy money if so * Yesterday we had Satya the genius forcing the board to quit. This morning it was Satya the genius who acquired OpenAI for $0. Im sure there will be more if sama goes back. So if sama goes back - lets hear it, why is Satya a genius?

because NOT letting sama go back would undo the all the good will (and resulting access) that they've built. As satya said, he's there to support, in whatever way yields the best path forward. what's best for business is to actually mean that.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently, there are shareholders petitioning the board of Tesla for him to be suspended due to the antisemitic posts. Maybe this will be the week of the CEO's... :-)

>due to the antisemitic posts. He can't be suspended for posts that didn't happen.

How would you interpret what he said, then?

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Guess OpenAI that was actually open was dead the moment Altman took MS money and completely change the organization. People there got a taste of the money and the mission went out the window. A lesson to learn I guess, just because something claims to be a nonprofit with a mission doesn’t mean it is/always will be so. All it takes is a corporation with deep pockets to compromise a few important people*, indirectly gi…

"few important people"? 95% of the company went with Altman. That's a popular vote if I have ever seen one.. Nokia was completely different, I doubt any of their regular employees supported Elop.

You compromise the “few” to get a foot and your money in the door. After that, money will work its magic.

Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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A few things come to mind: * Emmett Shear should have put in a strong golden parachute in his contract, easy money if so * Yesterday we had Satya the genius forcing the board to quit. This morning it was Satya the genius who acquired OpenAI for $0. Im sure there will be more if sama goes back. So if sama goes back - lets hear it, why is Satya a genius?

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Re: Sam Altman is still trying to return as OpenAI CEO

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Feels like OpenAI employees aren't so enthused about joining MSFT here, no?

Feels like they want to be where Altman is.

Realistically, regular employees have little to gain by staying at Open AI at this point. They would be taking a huge gamble, earn less money, and lose a lot of colleagues.
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